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08-30-2023, 06:12 PM

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hercretired

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Originally Posted by madmax757

I think it’s 10 items. I was being a wise guy. But they seem to add one extra one a year.

believe the table on 3.15 shows eight (8) items

08-30-2023, 07:36 PM

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believe the table on 3.15 shows eight (8) items

It has been updated with a 9th item as of the last major revision. “Landing checklist completed” which fits firmly in my “You don’t say?” category.

08-30-2023, 07:49 PM

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I think it’s 10 items. I was being a wise guy. But they seem to add one extra one a year.

I was joking. Sarcasm is hard to express on here …

08-30-2023, 08:08 PM

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It has been updated with a 9th item as of the last major revision. “Landing checklist completed” which fits firmly in my “You don’t say?” category.

I can’t wait to see if they add “Landing clearance received “

08-31-2023, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TransWorld

So 65 exact to 67 exact. If it passes and is signed, not everyone will stay the two extra years. Crystal ball of many of us on here predict about half. That means an average of 66. So, one more year, on average.

One year’s worth of full hiring will get the industry about caught up with staffing needs. Then be in normal hiring mode, considering massive retirements.

Unless there is a massive Black Swan event (like 9/11 or WWIII), this is the way I see it.

At UA when we went from 60 to 65 almost everyone stayed despite what everyone said. I'd expect the same at F9.

08-31-2023, 12:56 PM

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At UA when we went from 60 to 65 almost everyone stayed despite what everyone said. I'd expect the same at F9.

Let’s touch base in two years and see what happens.

Worst case is 2 years to catch up instead of 1 year. Agreed?

08-31-2023, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TransWorld

Let’s touch base in two years and see what happens.

Worst case is 2 years to catch up instead of 1 year. Agreed?

Again, if we’re talking about F9 retirements only, it has NO affect. Handful of guys close to 65. Could we see a downstream affect from legacies? Probably, but not as much as management might hope.

08-31-2023, 07:00 PM

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At UA when we went from 60 to 65 almost everyone stayed despite what everyone said. I'd expect the same at F9.

Pilots just can't turn down money.

09-01-2023, 06:13 AM

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Let’s touch base in two years and see what happens.

Worst case is 2 years to catch up instead of 1 year. Agreed?

Agree. Either way it's not an issue within F9. It could slow pilots bailing out to other airlines that have so many retirements.

09-01-2023, 06:36 AM

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1. "Age 67" is not signed off yet. Therefore, it is age 65 until it is not.

2. This will have minimal impact to Frontier. If anything, more guys will quit, since "they can work at a Legacy two more years now"

3. Rampers will still be on lunch break when a plane arrives, 90% of the time.