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Old 09-02-2024, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by hercretired
while I agree that a stike vote is important, I think since the PROBABILITY of an actual strike occurring is dismally low, I am not sure a strike vote carries the weight it rightfully should, with current Frontier management.
It might. But it carries weight with the NMB.
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Old 09-02-2024, 03:51 PM
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It might. But it carries weight with the NMB.
Yea I think at this point everything we do is to show the NMB that we are prepared and trying our best, while the company is completely incompetent and does not care.
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Old 09-02-2024, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hercretired
while I agree that a stike vote is important, I think since the PROBABILITY of an actual strike occurring is dismally low, I am not sure a strike vote carries the weight it rightfully should, with current Frontier management.
I think that this USED to be true...

We're in a new day. A new age. Post COVID age. We need to get the language fixed all the way this time (not some - we'll get the rest later crap).

I fully expect to strike. In fact, I've been mentioning on here all along that if there were ever a company that is in the absolute correct position/situation - it's us. We're small (lower market share), we're the lowest paid w/ some of the worst benefits and have had that since 9/11 and bargained in good faith last time. And, we'll probably have a pro-labor president.

If the govt won't allow us to strike, then the NMB/Railway Labor Act doesn't work.
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Old 09-02-2024, 05:06 PM
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If the govt won't allow us to strike, then the NMB/Railway Labor Act doesn't work.
DUH
of course it DOSENT WORK it was designed by the million now billionaires that run the economy and PROFIT from it.
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Old 09-02-2024, 06:31 PM
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DUH
of course it DOSENT WORK it was designed by the million now billionaires that run the economy and PROFIT from it.
Don't know if it's possible but every long journey begins with the 1st step...
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Old 09-03-2024, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dracir1
I think that this USED to be true...

We're in a new day. A new age. Post COVID age. We need to get the language fixed all the way this time (not some - we'll get the rest later crap).

I fully expect to strike. In fact, I've been mentioning on here all along that if there were ever a company that is in the absolute correct position/situation - it's us. We're small (lower market share), we're the lowest paid w/ some of the worst benefits and have had that since 9/11 and bargained in good faith last time. And, we'll probably have a pro-labor president.

If the govt won't allow us to strike, then the NMB/Railway Labor Act doesn't work.
Pro labor president? You mean the current VP that’s apart of the administration that contested the JB/NK merger for no other reason than “just because” and is about to put thousands of union members out of work? That pro labor president?
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Old 09-03-2024, 04:19 PM
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Pro labor president? You mean the current VP that’s apart of the administration that contested the JB/NK merger for no other reason than “just because” and is about to put thousands of union members out of work? That pro labor president?
But it wasn't the governments fault. Blame is only on Robin and Ted.
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Old 09-03-2024, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
Pro labor president? You mean the current VP that’s apart of the administration that contested the JB/NK merger for no other reason than “just because” and is about to put thousands of union members out of work? That pro labor president?
Unfortunately the likelihood of a strike being allowed by either administration is unlikely but Trump even less so. The last strike was allowedc by Obama btw. Not that that should effect the way you vote because it's so unlikely anyhow.
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Old 09-04-2024, 04:48 AM
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Not that that should effect the way you vote because it's so unlikely anyhow.
I really hope everyone here is smart enough not to vote based on if they think a president would let them strike.. but hey that's me
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Old 09-05-2024, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
Unfortunately the likelihood of a strike being allowed by either administration is unlikely but Trump even less so. The last strike was allowedc by Obama btw. Not that that should effect the way you vote because it's so unlikely anyhow.
Obama also shut down a railroad strike due to its effect on commerce. By coincidence, most airline strikes have occurred under Republican administrations. The party in power makes no difference, it's all about market share and how much a particular strike will disrupt the market and anger voters. Either party would block a strike by the big 3, both would probably allow a smaller company such as Frontier or Allegiant to strike.
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