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10-05-2023, 06:48 AM

#171

ReserveCA

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The company is only interested in concessions…….
they assign NO value to the pilot group or the CBA
move this thing along…… strike vote…

10-05-2023, 07:25 AM

#172

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Originally Posted by ReserveCA

We need to “jump to the chase” and request mediation……… have a strike vote……
move the process along

I get the feeling - I truly do but a mediator won’t touch a negotiation until the remaining items can be counted on one hand.
A strike vote early in the process may rally the pilots but it will have no teeth and be a wasted opportunity IMO anyways.

No way around it - this is going to take awhile unfortunately.

10-05-2023, 11:06 AM

#173

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well….. if the company will NOT discuss anything (“any discussion will not achieve progress”) and continues to ask for concessions then ??????

10-05-2023, 11:09 AM

#174

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Did Avelo just raise their pilot pay? Any details?

10-05-2023, 12:40 PM

#175

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Did Avelo just raise their pilot pay? Any details?

Someone posted it on the Facebook group

Looks like 12th year CA is $298
1st year FO $131 and up to $200 for 12th year FO

Good news for us as Frontier will look to the low pay airlines to be our "peer group"

10-05-2023, 02:35 PM

#176

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Originally Posted by ReserveCA

well….. if the company will NOT discuss anything (“any discussion will not achieve progress”) and continues to ask for concessions then ??????

If you were at F9 during the last contract then you know the game plan. If not then ask somebody that was.

You guys JUST passed openers……it’s going to be awhile.

10-06-2023, 04:41 AM

#177

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Originally Posted by Aero1900

They also have over 75hrs or flying on days off at 125%.......

No contract, no union, company can increase or decrease at any time, so keep that in mind.

10-06-2023, 06:22 AM

#178

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Originally Posted by Shrek

If you were at F9 during the last contract then you know the game plan. If not then ask somebody that was.

You guys JUST passed openers……it’s going to be awhile.

I voted NO…….

10-06-2023, 06:48 AM

#179

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Originally Posted by ReserveCA

I voted NO…….

We all know. That's not what he's talking about.

10-20-2023, 12:28 PM

#180

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“ While the company is engaging to a limited degree in lower-level areas, their willingness to meaningfully bargain over the cornerstone issues important to Frontier pilots has been absent. Based on the company’s lack of commitment to this point, it is hard to see how a contract can be completed in a timely manner.”

So, what does this mean exactly? Does it mean don’t expect anything in the new contract? Does it mean don’t expect a new contract? Why so cryptic?