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Old 09-12-2024, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LifetimeCFI
There's a good listen on an interview our CEO did with some guy.. I don't have the link, sorry, but looking at double digit margins by Q2 2025.
Barry has been saying we at 2 to 3 quarters away from double digit margins since 2021…
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Old 09-13-2024, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Planedrive
Barry has been saying we at 2 to 3 quarters away from double digit margins since 2021…
Well I hope thats true. It'll be tough for them to say they can't afford to pay us with double digit margins.
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Old 09-13-2024, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Cameronhoward
Well I hope thats true. It'll be tough for them to say they can't afford to pay us with double digit margins.
Yep. We're not getting anything from a business that is barely breaking even.
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Old 09-13-2024, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
Really doesn't work that well with the ULCC business model. When you have a business model that generates over 50% of the revenue via ancillary fees, you want to shuffle as many people on and off the plane as possible. Long haul doesn't do that. You'd make more money flying a 320 4 short legs than a 330 on just one leg. 4x the bag fees, 4x the seat fees etc.

The other problem is utilization. When the aircraft are all on monthly lease payments you need to run as many flights/ hours as possible. Again, doesn't work well easily for long haul flights.

Long haul low cost has been a major problem or a flat out failure business model. If the big, experience jet is only going to fly 1 or 2 legs a day, it needs the mega expensive 1st class revenue
Not entirely true, ULCC wide body longhaul has been happening for a very long time in Asia, Europe and the Middle East. There must be a case model for it and a way to make it work. A330s and B787s are being run as ULCC at a number or airlines.
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Old 09-15-2024, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DumboDrop
Yep. We're not getting anything from a business that is barely breaking even.
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