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Old 06-30-2024, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Stayontarget
I definitely had to do a double take when I saw the pairings come out and the totals. Kinda as some mentioned above… “That’s it?!” The next earnings call should be another fun one.
Maybe mgmt is setting the stage to explain future poor earnings...."revenue was down because we didn't fly enough block hours in the fall to utilize our planes/crews efficiently."
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Old 06-30-2024, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by nene
Maybe mgmt is setting the stage to explain future poor earnings...."revenue was down because we didn't fly enough block hours in the fall to utilize our planes/crews efficiently."
The day turn model failed quicker than I expected. Time to close all the bases we have opened since COVID and go back to four day trips.
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Old 07-01-2024, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by nene
Maybe mgmt is setting the stage to explain future poor earnings...."revenue was down because we didn't fly enough block hours in the fall to utilize our planes/crews efficiently."
Whenever the operation falls apart they reduce the flying. Seen this game before. They'll get the on time performance back up at the expense of profits and then reverse course again to greatlr up for the fall travel season which will inevitably so south again.

This cycle has repeated many times over the 10 years of Indigo
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Old 07-01-2024, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Planedrive
The day turn model failed quicker than I expected. Time to close all the bases we have opened since COVID and go back to four day trips.
Just wondering why the day turn model has / is failing ? It seems to have worked ok for me in LAS. Although I am going to another base to be pretty senior and be off reserve.

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Old 07-01-2024, 01:39 PM
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Just wondering why the day turn model has / is failing ? It seems to have worked ok for me in LAS. Although I am going to another base to be pretty senior and be off reserve.
the main issue is our contractor’s inability to do their Job. It doesn’t help when you’re doing a “turn” but have to tail swap and you’re keeping the basin crew. Arrive no bridge driver, do all post activities and get to new plane and no gate agent to let you down. Half the time I’m doing tail swaps. The company just can’t run this place smoothly right now. But that’s what you get when every department is run so thin. Turns could work just fine. Biffy just doesn’t want to pay for it.
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Old 07-01-2024, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by madmax757
Just wondering why the day turn model has / is failing ? It seems to have worked ok for me in LAS. Although I am going to another base to be pretty senior and be off reserve.
Can work up to 50-60%. Destinations 2-3.5 hours apart. Otherwise it's either too short or too long.
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Originally Posted by Mooneyguy
the main issue is our contractor’s inability to do their Job. It doesn’t help when you’re doing a “turn” but have to tail swap and you’re keeping the basin crew. Arrive no bridge driver, do all post activities and get to new plane and no gate agent to let you down. Half the time I’m doing tail swaps. The company just can’t run this place smoothly right now. But that’s what you get when every department is run so thin. Turns could work just fine. Biffy just doesn’t want to pay for it.
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Just wondering why the day turn model has / is failing ? It seems to have worked ok for me in LAS. Although I am going to another base to be pretty senior and be off reserve.
I’ve seen no real evidence that day turns are the culprit.
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Old 07-01-2024, 08:00 PM
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why would "the model fail" ?

rampers who don't exist, impact a day turn versus a 4-day trip operation equally the same. No jetbridge drivers are no jetbridge drivers, "day turn" or not.

Orlando rampers watching soccer matches on TV, while we taxi in, do not care if it is a "day turn" operation or not.

Barry and company want to completly get out of hotels, post-Cancun/union grievances, he hates hotels. So if he could, we would have NO hotel costs. Training at super-base Denver and Orlando will soon result in YOU, paying for YOUR hotel room, if you are "based" there but a commuter.

Day turns WILL work. Barry will make them work.

The beatings continue until morale improves.
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Old 07-01-2024, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mooneyguy
the main issue is our contractor’s inability to do their Job. It doesn’t help when you’re doing a “turn” but have to tail swap and you’re keeping the basin crew. Arrive no bridge driver, do all post activities and get to new plane and no gate agent to let you down. Half the time I’m doing tail swaps. The company just can’t run this place smoothly right now. But that’s what you get when every department is run so thin. Turns could work just fine. Biffy just doesn’t want to pay for it.
had BL stop by the flight deck the other day.....spent 10+ minutes trying to get the point across that we need more/better staffing at the gate and on the ramp.
specifically told him "That's YOUR job"..... deaf ears
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Old 07-01-2024, 09:12 PM
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had BL stop by the flight deck the other day.....spent 10+ minutes trying to get the point across that we need more/better staffing at the gate and on the ramp.
specifically told him "That's YOUR job"..... deaf ears
I don't think Menzes staffing falls under flight ops, but ill have to check my org chart.
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