Stayontarget

Unless we are talking about a different update I didn’t read it like that. I read it as let’s try and work on moving forward. Extending an olive branch despite past transgressions.

Reminds me of Game Theory, Tit for tat.

spooldup

Yeah I think this is a terrible take.

The union said the company caused these issues and they are trying to help them resolve it by giving them feedback on key issues. There is nothing wrong with that.

These people who are on FB claiming the union is working for the company and the MEC chair is a company man are hilarious.

fivebyfive

Can you elaborate with some examples of how the MEC has dug in their heels and gone to battle for the benefit of the pilot group? Results never lie. That is the fastest way to silence these rogue critics.

fcoolaiddrinker

They just won the last few arbitrations. Haven’t lost any to my knowledge. I’m not sure it gets better outside of pushing more valuable ones forward and winning those.
Digging your heels in on something your likely to lose is about the last thing you would want to do at this point in meditation.

Flyhigh44

anyone who know MM knows that he is not in the company’s pocket.

F9320 Driver

I don't think winning a few arbitrations counts is digging your heels in with the company, merely upholding the contract as is required. While, I don't believe MM is in the companies pocket. I also don't think you would see statements from the MEC chair from any of the mainline carriers. go on about how they're helping to solve company created issues.
Ther are always going things that come up everyday between the company and the union that need to be addressed to keep the machine moving and with this management team you're going to have to work to shove that train in a direction to keep it on track.
I think in time history will show that the time of dealing with Frankie/Biffle is as much of a benchmark moment as dealing with Richard Farris or even Lorenzo was in the 80s.
Frontier is currently flooded with new and uninitiated pilots who don't understand what we're dealing with and what it has taken to get to this point They are just excited that they're making more money than they ever have in their life and believe that things will continue to come to them just as easy as they have in the past.

Investor confidence is a part of the equation that can sway our management. If we call out what they are doing wrong it will drive them to make the changes to make it right. If we do not call it out then they will continue down the road that they are on.
This is why we set up picketing events.
This is an important role of the union as they can call these things out without reparations being made upon specific pilots.
I don't believe that the union should torpedo the company, but they need to point out when things are not being done correctly

ReserveCA

Why is VAP not available?

CGLimits

It’s on the ELP APP, not on FLICA anymore. It opened this morning.

Stayontarget

I didn’t know which thread to put this in so I just stuck it here…


Whoa. Block hours are WAY down for August. 8% fleet wide with a few bases seeing 15% down.

I had to go back and look at historical averages to see if this was business as usual. It’s not. My data only goes back to 2019 but every single August has at least a couple thousand more block hours than the previous July.

I wonder if those poor metrics are having a greater toll than we know? Maybe the rumors swirling about day trips not quite working as planned are true and some changes are coming? Maybe 15 321NEO airplanes are all going down for engine overhaul at once? Doubtful on that one.

DumboDrop

BL said last month that they took flying out of the schedule to try to improve performance. I assume the decision was made a few months ago, and we will see that for August.