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02-20-2024, 01:54 PM
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The pay tables for the Big 4 are out there until 2028. The longer the negotiations, the higher the rates. It's simple math (and time) formula. If Indigo was smart, they'd TA section 3 NOW while rates are lower. Prolonging saves money on labor costs but also decreases retention.
CASM is one thing. But RASM is another.
02-20-2024, 02:08 PM
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That has to be factored in...
The pay tables for the Big 4 are out there until 2028. The longer the negotiations, the higher the rates. It's simple math (and time) formula. If Indigo was smart, they'd TA section 3 NOW while rates are lower. Prolonging saves money on labor costs but also decreases retention.
CASM is one thing. But RASM is another.
The pay tables for the Big 4 are out there until 2028. The longer the negotiations, the higher the rates. It's simple math (and time) formula. If Indigo was smart, they'd TA section 3 NOW while rates are lower. Prolonging saves money on labor costs but also decreases retention.
CASM is one thing. But RASM is another.
Management would be fired immediately if they were to agree to proposed rates day one with nothing to show for it.
02-20-2024, 02:33 PM
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That has to be factored in...
The pay tables for the Big 4 are out there until 2028. The longer the negotiations, the higher the rates. It's simple math (and time) formula. If Indigo was smart, they'd TA section 3 NOW while rates are lower. Prolonging saves money on labor costs but also decreases retention.
CASM is one thing. But RASM is another.
The pay tables for the Big 4 are out there until 2028. The longer the negotiations, the higher the rates. It's simple math (and time) formula. If Indigo was smart, they'd TA section 3 NOW while rates are lower. Prolonging saves money on labor costs but also decreases retention.
CASM is one thing. But RASM is another.
02-20-2024, 03:32 PM
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It’s almost like someone didn’t read or understand market rate adjustment language in the proposal. Just giving you a hard time dracir1 but seriously that’s a tired suggestion that just isn’t reality.
02-20-2024, 04:52 PM
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That has to be factored in...
The pay tables for the Big 4 are out there until 2028. The longer the negotiations, the higher the rates. It's simple math (and time) formula. If Indigo was smart, they'd TA section 3 NOW while rates are lower. Prolonging saves money on labor costs but also decreases retention.
CASM is one thing. But RASM is another.
The pay tables for the Big 4 are out there until 2028. The longer the negotiations, the higher the rates. It's simple math (and time) formula. If Indigo was smart, they'd TA section 3 NOW while rates are lower. Prolonging saves money on labor costs but also decreases retention.
CASM is one thing. But RASM is another.
With the arrangment above, Frontier will ALWAYS be lagging Big-4. F9 "today contract" will always be "yesterdays Big 4" rates.
Is that what we want?
02-21-2024, 06:14 AM
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And in 2028, Big 4 will be working on their next round of new pay rates. Meanwhile, we will have "arrived" to our agreement (not matching Big-4 by the way...) of "better than now, but sub-Big 4" rates.
With the arrangment above, Frontier will ALWAYS be lagging Big-4. F9 "today contract" will always be "yesterdays Big 4" rates.
Is that what we want?
With the arrangment above, Frontier will ALWAYS be lagging Big-4. F9 "today contract" will always be "yesterdays Big 4" rates.
Is that what we want?
02-21-2024, 09:52 AM
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02-21-2024, 10:19 AM
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02-23-2024, 09:32 AM
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Not exactly F9 news but Indigo owns a portion of Lynx.
https://www.thestar.com/business/discount-carriers-flair-airlines-and-lynx-air-in-merger-talks-industry-insiders-say/article_66cc1896-cb7b-11ee-9c2e-3b0d7489ee49.
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https://www.thestar.com/business/discount-carriers-flair-airlines-and-lynx-air-in-merger-talks-industry-insiders-say/article_66cc1896-cb7b-11ee-9c2e-3b0d7489ee49.
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