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03-29-2023, 02:28 PM
#251
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I assume so as well. If you are under 15 years with more than 10 years left and can take the pay hit I would 100% do the same. Only caveat is if you believe there will be a furlough in the next 5 years. I think there will be but just a guess based on history and the direction our economy is going.
03-29-2023, 04:04 PM
#252
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I assume so as well. If you are under 15 years with more than 10 years left and can take the pay hit I would 100% do the same. Only caveat is if you believe there will be a furlough in the next 5 years. I think there will be but just a guess based on history and the direction our economy is going.
03-29-2023, 04:31 PM
#253
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We do not reach the peak of attrition retirements for another 3 years. Then it’s 5 more years of what we have today. I ask you- what is the logical conclusion for Frontier, Allegiant, Avelo, Breeze and possibly even Southwest (who wants to hire over 2000 this year)?
03-29-2023, 04:50 PM
#254
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Rhetorical or no?
03-29-2023, 04:52 PM
#255
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03-29-2023, 05:06 PM
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I’m guessing you are implying that the LCCs are going to struggle and not make it based on hiring and retention. I would worry about regionals long before any Major. Might be important to note we actually had to slow down hiring for the time being. Turns out there’s still enough pilots to go around.
03-29-2023, 05:19 PM
#257
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Dramatic much? Although there may be short-term struggles to staff, don’t forget that we haven’t really even begun to see any airline really get creative to attract candidates. From potential home-basing schemes, unlimited commuter hotels, straight-up, fully-paid ab-initio programs, better pay rates (better even than the legacies) - we haven’t even seen the start of what could be coming if some of these airlines truly start to get desperate.
03-29-2023, 07:21 PM
#258
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03-29-2023, 07:24 PM
#259
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Dramatic much? Although there may be short-term struggles to staff, don’t forget that we haven’t really even begun to see any airline really get creative to attract candidates. From potential home-basing schemes, unlimited commuter hotels, straight-up, fully-paid ab-initio programs, better pay rates (better even than the legacies) - we haven’t even seen the start of what could be coming if some of these airlines truly start to get desperate.
03-30-2023, 06:05 AM
#260
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Agreed. I would just add that the pipeline of new pilots is still running strong. ATP is cranking out pilots as fast as they can, all the university flight programs are full and the hundreds of mom and pop flight schools around the country are doing the same. New pilots are being created constantly
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