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I have no idea what I'm talking about or if this is even possible but something has to be done. How can we just let management keep going on with their blunders? Is there anything the union can do? FAA safety hotline? Crew feedback forms are obviously worthless. We are over here doing section 19s for sick calls during a pandemic and management is, well, you know. So what can we do? And no, don't say leave. Actually have a constructive thought because I honestly believe in this model but it's going to take at least the tiniest bit of caring in the customer service department.
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I have no idea what I'm talking about or if this is even possible but something has to be done. How can we just let management keep going on with their blunders? Is there anything the union can do? FAA safety hotline? Crew feedback forms are obviously worthless. We are over here doing section 19s for sick calls during a pandemic and management is, well, you know. So what can we do? And no, don't say leave. Actually have a constructive thought because I honestly believe in this model but it's going to take at least the tiniest bit of caring in the customer service department.
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If you think this is bad, just wait.
Things are just fine. You think management cares if we have to wait a long time to get a hold of scheduling? Planes are still flying, tickets are being sold. We are far from a crisis. Check back this summer to see some real carnage
Southwest, JetBlue and Spirit all had mass cancelations this past week. Their management teams aren't going anywhere and neither is ours
Things are just fine. You think management cares if we have to wait a long time to get a hold of scheduling? Planes are still flying, tickets are being sold. We are far from a crisis. Check back this summer to see some real carnage
Southwest, JetBlue and Spirit all had mass cancelations this past week. Their management teams aren't going anywhere and neither is ours
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Yesterday, the JAX to SJU flight boarded with no crew. No one cared to tell the gate agents the crew was being deadheaded up from MCO and there was a 4 hour delay even though scheduling knew since the night before. Understandably, people on the plane were ****ed when they learned the news.
But I mean something so simple as that, that's beyond dropping the ball. Pure, utter, incompetence. That's no way to run ANY business.
But I mean something so simple as that, that's beyond dropping the ball. Pure, utter, incompetence. That's no way to run ANY business.
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Great mantra and all but we are doing this, away from our families, 3 or 4 days a week (if not commuting), every week....over holidays, birthdays, etc. It would be nice if....idk....somebody at any level did their job?
I know NK B6 SWA had problems too, but we aren't them. We have a little over 100 planes. There's no excuse for being a little more prepared with such a comparatively small operation. Who would have thought weather would occur in the SE during the spring? Came out of nowhere
I know NK B6 SWA had problems too, but we aren't them. We have a little over 100 planes. There's no excuse for being a little more prepared with such a comparatively small operation. Who would have thought weather would occur in the SE during the spring? Came out of nowhere
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Fiscally (and unfortunately since I hate the disservice to pax) they only need to get their act together if other airlines are. UA which has plenty of growth issues right now seems to be on the war path in selected areas and is doing better than others with irregular ops. They plan an almost 70% increase in flying in DEN over the next few years. So in that light, yes F9 can't rely on their current system if they want to continue to compete. Status quo in any industry can be deadly. Time to get the popcorn out. Size can help efficiency and synergy in the merger but it must be acted on. Doesn't look like the desire is there at the moment but when they start realizing the impacts, being a publicly traded company, heads should roll. Time for F9 to put big boy pants on eh?
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Operations in MCO is run by contractors on three computers running Saber in a room about the size of my walk in closet. Go down and look for yourself, it's unbelievable. They have a hard time keeping things straight on a sunny day let alone a massive line of thunderstorms. Nothing is going to change unless management gets serious about how this place functions. I talked with one of our previous FAA inspectors who told me I wouldn't believe the stories he would tell me about the way this airline is run if he could. This kind of stuff, the wide cast dragnet style of discipline we've seen with section 19's and the like over the years, as well as the total incompetence of our director of training and his pal the VP of Flight Ops all lead straight uphill to where the smell is emanating from, Big BB himself. He was unaware of how bad things were (and are still) going at the schoolhouse and I doubt he has any clue regarding the details of these operational issues we are constantly battling. I've harbored a hope that as the 5th largest airline in the nation after our merger that economies of scale would force a change in the manner in which we operate (Persian bazaar in a sandstorm) but then I just have to laugh at myself when I remember who is running this place. Until that changes expect more of the same.
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