Vote of no confidence?
04-05-2022, 07:50 PM
#21
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 303
Seriously why would anyone stay? You are either going to get destroyed in a SLI with JB or Spirit or get left out in the cold if they merge. Management hates you. Every major all over the country is desperately hiring. Bases to meet all needs. More money, better contracts. You have to be ----- to stay.
04-05-2022, 11:41 PM
#22
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 541
Seriously why would anyone stay? You are either going to get destroyed in a SLI with JB or Spirit or get left out in the cold if they merge. Management hates you. Every major all over the country is desperately hiring. Bases to meet all needs. More money, better contracts. You have to be ----- to stay.
Yes you are correct management absolutely LOVES pilots at Delta, United, and American!
04-06-2022, 06:54 AM
#23
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
Position: Lineholder
Posts: 1,425
I agree to extent with what was said. With that I'll say, I don't want the 5 hours or the vacation day, I want competence. I want to pull into a gate on a "scheduled" flight with an acars in range followed by an ops radio call on the ground to find that I actually do have wing walkers, AND a jetway driver, AND wheel chairs. Not a constant barrage of apologies to the passengers.
Nothing more demoralizing than making up time leg after leg to only be delayed leg after leg. While I agree that being compensated for it is nice, that doesn't negate the fact that it needs to get fixed. Fire someone for taking a 2 dollar mini but we will pay 5 hours and bonus vacation days, plus the fuel to sit and wait for said wing walkers.... I'd rather things just went smoothly than to get paid more.
Nothing more demoralizing than making up time leg after leg to only be delayed leg after leg. While I agree that being compensated for it is nice, that doesn't negate the fact that it needs to get fixed. Fire someone for taking a 2 dollar mini but we will pay 5 hours and bonus vacation days, plus the fuel to sit and wait for said wing walkers.... I'd rather things just went smoothly than to get paid more.
But we work for the sloppy version of Wal Mart. Maybe not even that - more like Family Dollar. It didn’t used to be this way but it is now. I certainly WANT us to be better, but when someone shows you who they are time and time again, believe them!
04-06-2022, 01:28 PM
#24
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: ULCC
Posts: 24
I agree to extent with what was said. With that I'll say, I don't want the 5 hours or the vacation day, I want competence. I want to pull into a gate on a "scheduled" flight with an acars in range followed by an ops radio call on the ground to find that I actually do have wing walkers, AND a jetway driver, AND wheel chairs. Not a constant barrage of apologies to the passengers.
Nothing more demoralizing than making up time leg after leg to only be delayed leg after leg. While I agree that being compensated for it is nice, that doesn't negate the fact that it needs to get fixed. Fire someone for taking a 2 dollar mini but we will pay 5 hours and bonus vacation days, plus the fuel to sit and wait for said wing walkers.... I'd rather things just went smoothly than to get paid more.
Nothing more demoralizing than making up time leg after leg to only be delayed leg after leg. While I agree that being compensated for it is nice, that doesn't negate the fact that it needs to get fixed. Fire someone for taking a 2 dollar mini but we will pay 5 hours and bonus vacation days, plus the fuel to sit and wait for said wing walkers.... I'd rather things just went smoothly than to get paid more.
I arrived several minutes late the other night in DEN after making up for a cluster**** of a boarding and bag loading process at the origin, which should have left us a bit less than 45mins to turn the full 321 for our outbound flight. The apparent ONE ground crew was busy trying to get a plane out one gate over. We waited like a half hour on the Alpha North line waiting for them to finish up with them, push, etc. before they could stroll on over the vast distance, find about 3 or 4 good wands, and guide us in. Why have one late DEN departure (other plane) when you can turn that into the ill-will of 230ish 1/2 hour for no reason waiting pax, 2 late DEN departures, and our late arrival down-route? See, you can take advantage of a bad situation and multiply the incompetence...God bless us...
Cheers!
Last edited by yankeefly; 04-06-2022 at 02:03 PM.
04-08-2022, 12:50 PM
#25
New Hire
Joined APC: Aug 2016
Posts: 3
No doubt staffing is a big part of the problem.
Indigo is always going to run this place lean. That's just fully baked into the business plan. However, staffing is a big problem across the entire economy right now. Nothing about the current staffing levels is surprising if you pay attention to what's going on in the rest of the country. Literally every business in America is hiring and understaffed right now.
The problem is that we can't even staff the lean levels they want. When we are running even leaner than they want, it's going to be rough. This is a much bigger problem then just us. Look around and embrace the sh*t show
Indigo is always going to run this place lean. That's just fully baked into the business plan. However, staffing is a big problem across the entire economy right now. Nothing about the current staffing levels is surprising if you pay attention to what's going on in the rest of the country. Literally every business in America is hiring and understaffed right now.
The problem is that we can't even staff the lean levels they want. When we are running even leaner than they want, it's going to be rough. This is a much bigger problem then just us. Look around and embrace the sh*t show
Your quote is worthy of a T-shirt slogan. “Look around and embrace the sh*t show”. I’m thinking about making a T-shirt with your quote with your permission.
04-08-2022, 07:01 PM
#26
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Position: 1900D CA
Posts: 3,476
04-23-2022, 06:19 AM
#28
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Joined APC: Sep 2019
Posts: 128
latest round of section 19 hearings began last week…I got invited for having the audacity to hold off boarding with no logbook nor firm return to service guesstimate……what a world!
04-23-2022, 06:39 AM
#29
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Joined APC: Jun 2021
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 655
You get disciplined for making decisions? I dont even think my regional is that bad. And they pretty much suck too.
04-23-2022, 07:27 AM
#30
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Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 482
YGBFKM.. Are there any more details to that? I would have done the same thing. When I upgraded BL said that "they trusted our judgement and the calls we would make on the line" or something to that effect.What B.S. How did this rise to the top off the cesspool to get sniffed out, scooped up, and examined under the microscope of a section 19? I mean an incident like that is just a raindrop in a hurricane, honestly.
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