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05-18-2024, 09:40 AM

#141

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Originally Posted by TurboFanMan

I think they should compile a list of all the pilots that was using bots, and publish it to the pilot group. The heat from the kitchen of everyone knowing who they are would be priceless in my opinion. 😂

F9 will never publish a list. They would become liable for anything that happens to those individuals including violent acts or property damage or financial losses.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is the full capability of the bots? I was under the impression the bot would just monitor open time and as soon as something hits it would grab it without any human interaction. It seems like a lot more was happening.

05-18-2024, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8R

so what about the guys who don’t have bots and babysit flica? They have no integrity because they take the time and effort to find the trips and wait for them to go premium? Guys here want everything handed to them on a silver platter. It takes like 1 hour of effort to figure it out.

Theres a big difference between the guys/girls that babysit Flica and those that are somehow picking up premiums while they are flying. You know that, but as usual, you’re just stirring the pot.

05-18-2024, 02:22 PM

#143

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Originally Posted by BillF

Theres a big difference between the guys/girls that babysit Flica and those that are somehow picking up premiums while they are flying. You know that, but as usual, you’re just stirring the pot.

or he’s a bot user 🤔

05-18-2024, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BillF

Theres a big difference between the guys/girls that babysit Flica and those that are somehow picking up premiums while they are flying. You know that, but as usual, you’re just stirring the pot.

Nah, you know that everyone throws bot accusation's around about anyone who flies premium. Just cause they’re too lazy to figure it out

05-18-2024, 03:27 PM

#145

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Originally Posted by BillF

Theres a big difference between the guys/girls that babysit Flica and those that are somehow picking up premiums while they are flying. You know that, but as usual, you’re just stirring the pot.

What about the people who use a third party (spouse) to pick up premium?

05-19-2024, 02:19 AM

#146

Nacho Libre

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Originally Posted by DumboDrop

What about the people who use a third party (spouse) to pick up premium?

Flica's terms of service are between the user and Flica only. Anyone else logging in is breaking the user agreement.

05-19-2024, 12:56 PM

#147

Planedrive

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Originally Posted by TurboFanMan

If you want to know who is flying all the premium it wouldn’t take much effort.

-left side of FLICA’s full site
pilot daily opentime live tab
”view or print pairings”
put in the date and select the base
”view detail”

Anything with INC was a premium.

05-19-2024, 05:34 PM

#148

ToddChavez

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There is a particular CA who's been flying premium all over the system. He picks up an Atlanta trip one day followed by Phoenix the next day and then Denver the next. There's no way he's not sleeping in crew rooms or in the airport, as there is often minimum rest between trips and he has to fly between the bases. I'm more concerned about someone like him flying all those flights fatigued, than a bot user. But I suspect that he is a bot user as well. Somehow he was able to pick up an Atlanta premium today, just minutes after blocking in from his Cleveland premium.

05-19-2024, 06:05 PM

#149

HSCompressor

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Originally Posted by ToddChavez

I'm not sure what's weirder:

Someone actually able to pickup out of base premium.
-or-
The fact I can't even pickup in base premium.

05-19-2024, 08:04 PM

#150

Planedrive

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Originally Posted by HSCompressor

I'm not sure what's weirder:

Someone actually able to pickup out of base premium.
-or-
The fact I can't even pickup in base premium.

I am a no vote on the future contract without a complete overhaul of the premium system.

We need to align ourselves with the industry on this one. I highly recommend everyone on this forum that isn’t one of the 15 pilots who get the premium trips contract your union representatives. Tell them this is unacceptable and we need to negotiate an industry standard premium system.

Along with industry standard profit sharing, LTD, and reserve rules.