Career Change
#1
New Hire
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Joined APC: Apr 2019
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Career Change
Hello APC users,
Mid career corporate pilot looking to change direction for my family and I. Fortune 500 with good pay but live in undesirable location. I’ve got no airline experience but lots of jet time that’s mostly logged as captain. Roughly 9,000 total time and some college. I don’t want to leave for another corporate operator.
Is there a place for me at Frontier, and in your opinion, would it be the kind of job that would be conducive to a family. Coming from being home about 75% of the time, but also bringing job related duties home typical to corporate aviation. Assuming a fairly easy commute, what are your professional thoughts. Living in one of the F9 bases at this time is not an option but desirable down the road. It will take a number of years to make what I’m making now, but will be able to match in a few years as a FO. Ready to apply. Cheers,
TMB
Mid career corporate pilot looking to change direction for my family and I. Fortune 500 with good pay but live in undesirable location. I’ve got no airline experience but lots of jet time that’s mostly logged as captain. Roughly 9,000 total time and some college. I don’t want to leave for another corporate operator.
Is there a place for me at Frontier, and in your opinion, would it be the kind of job that would be conducive to a family. Coming from being home about 75% of the time, but also bringing job related duties home typical to corporate aviation. Assuming a fairly easy commute, what are your professional thoughts. Living in one of the F9 bases at this time is not an option but desirable down the road. It will take a number of years to make what I’m making now, but will be able to match in a few years as a FO. Ready to apply. Cheers,
TMB
#2
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 550
Hello APC users,
Mid career corporate pilot looking to change direction for my family and I. Fortune 500 with good pay but live in undesirable location. I’ve got no airline experience but lots of jet time that’s mostly logged as captain. Roughly 9,000 total time and some college. I don’t want to leave for another corporate operator.
Is there a place for me at Frontier, and in your opinion, would it be the kind of job that would be conducive to a family. Coming from being home about 75% of the time, but also bringing job related duties home typical to corporate aviation. Assuming a fairly easy commute, what are your professional thoughts. Living in one of the F9 bases at this time is not an option but desirable down the road. It will take a number of years to make what I’m making now, but will be able to match in a few years as a FO. Ready to apply. Cheers,
TMB
Mid career corporate pilot looking to change direction for my family and I. Fortune 500 with good pay but live in undesirable location. I’ve got no airline experience but lots of jet time that’s mostly logged as captain. Roughly 9,000 total time and some college. I don’t want to leave for another corporate operator.
Is there a place for me at Frontier, and in your opinion, would it be the kind of job that would be conducive to a family. Coming from being home about 75% of the time, but also bringing job related duties home typical to corporate aviation. Assuming a fairly easy commute, what are your professional thoughts. Living in one of the F9 bases at this time is not an option but desirable down the road. It will take a number of years to make what I’m making now, but will be able to match in a few years as a FO. Ready to apply. Cheers,
TMB
Living in base will beat any corporate job regarding time with family. Your schedule is known 3+ weeks in advance, and you can swap/drop days with relative ease here. The flexibility is fantastic.
Apply and see if you can get a call. Right now they are hiring mostly regional guys, with a sprinkle of 135 guys.
#3
On Reserve
Joined APC: Feb 2019
Posts: 16
I got hired back in Feb mostly all 91/135 background sitting at about 4000TT 3500 turbine and 1000Tpic. Pm me If you want any specific info. I am really excited to get started and am ready to get out of corporate it’s a great time to get hired on right now.
#4
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 667
There are some fantastic corporate jobs out there...but if you don’t have one that you think is perfect for you it’s time to leave. Too many other options these days.
#5
On Reserve
Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 10
I’m in the same boat, awesome 91 job, but the lack of schedule and eating and sleeping the operation of the airplane is getting old. Seems like everytime I ask for a specific set of dates off (which is rare) the owner forgets the week before and wants to do a day trip to NYC for dinner. It’s really starting to wear on me and my family life.
#6
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Corporate Captain
Posts: 29
Hello APC users,
Mid career corporate pilot looking to change direction for my family and I. Fortune 500 with good pay but live in undesirable location. I’ve got no airline experience but lots of jet time that’s mostly logged as captain. Roughly 9,000 total time and some college. I don’t want to leave for another corporate operator.
Is there a place for me at Frontier, and in your opinion, would it be the kind of job that would be conducive to a family. Coming from being home about 75% of the time, but also bringing job related duties home typical to corporate aviation. Assuming a fairly easy commute, what are your professional thoughts. Living in one of the F9 bases at this time is not an option but desirable down the road. It will take a number of years to make what I’m making now, but will be able to match in a few years as a FO. Ready to apply. Cheers,
TMB
Mid career corporate pilot looking to change direction for my family and I. Fortune 500 with good pay but live in undesirable location. I’ve got no airline experience but lots of jet time that’s mostly logged as captain. Roughly 9,000 total time and some college. I don’t want to leave for another corporate operator.
Is there a place for me at Frontier, and in your opinion, would it be the kind of job that would be conducive to a family. Coming from being home about 75% of the time, but also bringing job related duties home typical to corporate aviation. Assuming a fairly easy commute, what are your professional thoughts. Living in one of the F9 bases at this time is not an option but desirable down the road. It will take a number of years to make what I’m making now, but will be able to match in a few years as a FO. Ready to apply. Cheers,
TMB
Taking the pay cut will hurt, but I think it is a relatively small sacrifice considering the quick upgrades/growth/expansion that is forecast at Frontier now.
I applied, hoping that they will take a look at someone who has been corporate their whole career.
#7
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 550
Honestly, everything about working here is better than the 91/135 life. The only bad thing, is commuting to reserve and first year pay. For me, it was brutal. For others, it may not be that bad. And 2nd year pay here, with a little bit of hustle, can beat the majority of corporate gigs on a W2.
#8
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 50
Hello APC users,
Mid career corporate pilot looking to change direction for my family and I. Fortune 500 with good pay but live in undesirable location. I’ve got no airline experience but lots of jet time that’s mostly logged as captain. Roughly 9,000 total time and some college. I don’t want to leave for another corporate operator.
Is there a place for me at Frontier, and in your opinion, would it be the kind of job that would be conducive to a family. Coming from being home about 75% of the time, but also bringing job related duties home typical to corporate aviation. Assuming a fairly easy commute, what are your professional thoughts. Living in one of the F9 bases at this time is not an option but desirable down the road. It will take a number of years to make what I’m making now, but will be able to match in a few years as a FO. Ready to apply. Cheers,
TMB
Mid career corporate pilot looking to change direction for my family and I. Fortune 500 with good pay but live in undesirable location. I’ve got no airline experience but lots of jet time that’s mostly logged as captain. Roughly 9,000 total time and some college. I don’t want to leave for another corporate operator.
Is there a place for me at Frontier, and in your opinion, would it be the kind of job that would be conducive to a family. Coming from being home about 75% of the time, but also bringing job related duties home typical to corporate aviation. Assuming a fairly easy commute, what are your professional thoughts. Living in one of the F9 bases at this time is not an option but desirable down the road. It will take a number of years to make what I’m making now, but will be able to match in a few years as a FO. Ready to apply. Cheers,
TMB
However, if you decide it is the right decision for you and your family, I would definitely say there is a place for you. If you prepare for the interview, and show them that you really want to be here, I'd say you have good odds (a career fair could help increase the chance for an interview).
Even though I hate the commute, I believe coming to F9 was the best decision I could have made, and I am really looking forward to my future here. It was a really nice change of pace to not have any work to bring home, or drama to figure out. I took a big pay cut as well, but by yr 3 I will have recouped the loss when you take into account retirement contributions. Using that 20/20 hindsight it should have been a no brainer, but I really struggled when making the decision. Needless to say I'm glad I did. Good luck either way.
#9
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2016
Position: Bus CA
Posts: 659
I’ve had quite a few FOs coming from purely corporate careers, honestly they’re some of the best people I’ve flown with. They have no issues through training, good attitudes (not lazy or offended by suggestions), they manage the aircraft well for newbies, and they’re good people to hang out with on an overnight.
Our pilot recruitment hasn’t been overlooking good corporate pilots and I hope that remains the case.
Our pilot recruitment hasn’t been overlooking good corporate pilots and I hope that remains the case.
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