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Old 02-09-2024, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Mooneyguy
16 for feb. They added the new class end of Jan and same day took 7 more off the list.
16 in 9 days, I guess that is the slowed attrition Barry spoke of.
Aug 9 we had 2050 pilots on Flica
Feb 10 we have 2101

51 net increase.

I don’t think you can quite go by month over month loss. December and January are going to be slower due to holidays.

I think we lost over 250 in that 6 month span.
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Old 02-09-2024, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingR6
Dang! I know of at least 2 more leaving a little later in February. I knew the slow down was only because of the holiday season. It's about to ramp up.
A lot of apps have been updated over the last couple months. Assuming SJU is staffed with involuntary displacements probably a lot more apps close to being updated. Management doesn’t seem to care, they have a pipeline with 700 cadets ready to fill your spot.
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Old 02-09-2024, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Planedrive
A lot of apps have been updated over the last couple months. Assuming SJU is staffed with involuntary displacements probably a lot more apps close to being updated. Management doesn’t seem to care, they have a pipeline with 700 cadets ready to fill your spot.
All those cadets will pair perfectly with fresh CAs and redeyes down to south america.
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Old 02-09-2024, 01:11 PM
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Just got my March class date. Hopefully you guys will be getting good news soon too.
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Old 02-09-2024, 01:29 PM
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New hire class in March will be about 60 in size. April is also confirmed, I got bumped back to April but hey.. It is what it is. Just gotta hope the world holds its **** together.
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Old 02-09-2024, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by LifetimeCFI
New hire class in March will be about 60 in size. April is also confirmed, I got bumped back to April but hey.. It is what it is. Just gotta hope the world holds its **** together.
Congrats, when did you sign up for the cadet program. I signed up in late September and already had mins, so curious where I might sit on the list.
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Old 02-09-2024, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by loganeich
Congrats, when did you sign up for the cadet program. I signed up in late September and already had mins, so curious where I might sit on the list.
My guess is you will be May.
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Old 02-09-2024, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by spooldup
All those cadets will pair perfectly with fresh CAs and redeyes down to south america.
I certainly share your fear and concern

I have a couple thoughts about it though;

1) This fear has been discussed since we opened MIA and started some of the mountainous routes down there

2) Every airline is doing the same thing. Heck, The big airlines have significantly shorter upgrade times than we do.

3) In the interest of safety, I don't want to see the upgrade time get any shorter than it is now. It's an industry wide risk factor for sure.

4) We need to make some changes to our culture here where we discuss flying techniques and safety more. Some of the young FOs I fly with are such know it alls I fear they can't even be receptive to learning from me. At my old airline we were constantly learning and teaching. I don't think we do a very good job of that here.

5) If you find yourself flying in the mountains in Central America and there's weather you need to avoid, look for a different arrival or departure procedure to request/fly rather than taking vectors. It's safer to be on a published procedure than to be venturing off into vector/ deviation land.
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Old 02-09-2024, 04:01 PM
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I certainly share your fear and concern

I have a couple thoughts about it though;

1) This fear has been discussed since we opened MIA and started some of the mountainous routes down there

2) Every airline is doing the same thing. Heck, The big airlines have significantly shorter upgrade times than we do.

3) In the interest of safety, I don't want to see the upgrade time get any shorter than it is now. It's an industry wide risk factor for sure.

4) We need to make some changes to our culture here where we discuss flying techniques and safety more. Some of the young FOs I fly with are such know it alls I fear they can't even be receptive to learning from me. At my old airline we were constantly learning and teaching. I don't think we do a very good job of that here.

5) If you find yourself flying in the mountains in Central America and there's weather you need to avoid, look for a different arrival or departure procedure to request/fly rather than taking vectors. It's safer to be on a published procedure than to be venturing off into vector/ deviation land.
In January we had our 3rd or 4th EGPWS event going into GUA. Everyone can keep burying their heads in the sand. I don't understand how this continues with an SMS system in place.
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Old 02-10-2024, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by madmax757

I don’t think you can quite go by month over month loss. December and January are going to be slower due to holidays
that’s the point. Dec and Jan attrition slowed down. Feb we were at 16 by the 8th. Barry claimed attrition is slowing, yes it did, over the holidays. If the trend continues in feb we will be back to the normal 30+ per month.
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