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Old 01-22-2024, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BobSacamano
Dude. Dream on. I did not count the number of new hires in the photo but it was definitely in the high 30s. With the regionals dialing back FO hiring and even some of the legacies doing so now as well, folks need to move past this weird fantasy that we are somehow going to run out of applicants. That ain’t gonna happen in the relevant future.
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Old 01-22-2024, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LifetimeCFI
Class MIGHT resume in March. I am telling you, they are looking at pulling the plug on the March class. Hiring folks told me straight to my face at HQ that this was a possibility.

Otherwise..

They sent a video update stating that:
1. Cadet, RTP, and off the street FO apps were closed UFN. Their hiring pool is backlogged to hell and back so anyone that is without a CJO right now you are unable to apply.
2. New hire bonus is gone, unless you've already signed an offer letter that has the bonus offer in writing. I for example have one I signed that has the offer. They could easily re-offer me a new class date with no bonus, but pretty soon there will flat out be no bonuses offered period.

I consider myself extremely fortunate to be in the hiring pool already. Feel bad for the dudes I watched get turned away. I might have seen the last two CJO recipients for months get their CJOs, so that was cool.

I don't see this as a bad sign for the company but I do see it as a sign things really are slowing down.
First, I have a hard time believing that The only person that knows what's going on is someone that doesn't even work for Frontier.
Secondly, my son is in the pool and hasn't receive this video you speak of.
Thirdly, Frontier said they are still accepting FO applications and I sent mine today. The Cadet and RTP applications have been closed for awhile.
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Old 01-22-2024, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AirTractorPilot
First, I have a hard time believing that The only person that knows what's going on is someone that doesn't even work for Frontier.
Secondly, my son is in the pool and hasn't receive this video you speak of.
Thirdly, Frontier said they are still accepting FO applications and I sent mine today. The Cadet and RTP applications have been closed for awhile.
Ive seen the video and it is directed at the pool pilots. Not stopping but “our pools are full…(we are) reducing hiring for a period of time to reduce the pipeline of pilots coming into Frontier….our Cadet program has exceeded our expectations.”

Also within the video is the confirmation that, “we are suspending the preemployment Bonus program until further notice.”

Looks like it was filmed within minutes of the anti-contract video we received.
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Old 01-22-2024, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AirTractorPilot
First, I have a hard time believing that The only person that knows what's going on is someone that doesn't even work for Frontier.
Secondly, my son is in the pool and hasn't receive this video you speak of.
Thirdly, Frontier said they are still accepting FO applications and I sent mine today. The Cadet and RTP applications have been closed for awhile.
I believe I misheard, I think it's just the RTP/Cadet apps being closed.

Everything else, largely confirmed.

I hope some of the CAs/mentors I've talked to are correct. Not encouraging when the dude who slots people in classes tells you a second new hire class might get cancelled. It's funny how some of the guys in training get the vibe that March and april will get canceled and line pilots seem to believe there will be two march classes. I hope they're right! lol
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Old 01-22-2024, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LifetimeCFI
I believe I misheard, I think it's just the RTP/Cadet apps being closed.

Everything else, largely confirmed.

I hope some of the CAs/mentors I've talked to are correct. Not encouraging when the dude who slots people in classes tells you a second new hire class might get cancelled. It's funny how some of the guys in training get the vibe that March and april will get canceled and line pilots seem to believe there will be two march classes. I hope they're right! lol
Just to clarify. If you’re referring to a previous post of mine I don’t think there will be two March classes. Just that they could be gearing up for that possible need in 2025.
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Old 01-22-2024, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Stayontarget
Just to clarify. If you’re referring to a previous post of mine I don’t think there will be two March classes. Just that they could be gearing up for that possible need in 2025.
Not just you. Multiple haha. Rumor is we'll hear an update on the 25th.
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Old 01-22-2024, 09:25 PM
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No new hire classes in February and possibly March. February vacancy will be to staff SJU. So the entire CA and FO SJU vacancy will be staffed with involuntary displacements. This just keeps getting better.
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Old 01-22-2024, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Planedrive
No new hire classes in February and possibly March. February vacancy will be to staff SJU. So the entire CA and FO SJU vacancy will be staffed with involuntary displacements. This just keeps getting better.
What terrible execution
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Old 01-23-2024, 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AirTractorPilot
First, I have a hard time believing that The only person that knows what's going on is someone that doesn't even work for Frontier.
Secondly, my son is in the pool and hasn't receive this video you speak of.
Thirdly, Frontier said they are still accepting FO applications and I sent mine today. The Cadet and RTP applications have been closed for awhile.
1) youre right but in fairness people that work here don't have a clue until things are anounced either
2) does your son have an R-ATP coming up through one of the university or cadet programs? If not he probably wouldn't have been shown the video. Nothing has changed with traditional OTS hires except any future CJOs will not receive the bonus
3) you sent your app in and your son has a CJO? I'm not flaming you, that must be a unique story if you're following your son to the airlines. That doesn't happen much, must be a cool relationship you two have. You should go to a job fair and tell the recruiters that story, wouldn't be surprised if they use you two as a PR story...take advantage of that!
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Old 01-23-2024, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Powderkeg
2) does your son have an R-ATP coming up through one of the university or cadet programs? If not he probably wouldn't have been shown the video. Nothing has changed with traditional OTS hires except any future CJOs will not receive the bonus
3) you sent your app in and your son has a CJO? I'm not flaming you, that must be a unique story if you're following your son to the airlines. That doesn't happen much, must be a cool relationship you two have. You should go to a job fair and tell the recruiters that story, wouldn't be surprised if they use you two as a PR story...take advantage of that!
My son is an OTS prior 121 who has had his class pushed since October. I'm looking to make a career change. He used to mix and load for me when he was younger so we have always liked working together. So if I could sling gear for him just once it would be the coolest proud dad moment ever! I just put my app in hoping for a Sept or Oct class because I have committed flying this season. I just turned 58 so this is my first and only shot at finishing my career 121. I'm too old to sit reserve in a crash pad so I'm willing to move. Live in Dallas so that would be ok, would love to move back to Florida so that would work and I'm from Chicago and our families are there. Even Cleveland is back in Midwest so we would make it work.
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