Hiring / training
01-17-2024, 09:15 AM
#4361
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,147
I have no doubt they're going to hire and maybe hire quite a few.
The question is whether they value the cadets or not. Let's say they have 40 per class. Let's say they allocate 10 slots to cadet hires per class. Let's say I'm #50 on the cadet list. That means I'm waiting 5 classes to get my foot in the door.
It's impossible to know where I fall on there, but in October they sent me an official offer with a date of march 19th. I don't know how that's going to change post-Feb cancellation. That's what is killing me. Maybe over the top, but all I can think about is receiving a phone call or email in April that the program is dissolving and I'm being released from the program and CJO.
The question is whether they value the cadets or not. Let's say they have 40 per class. Let's say they allocate 10 slots to cadet hires per class. Let's say I'm #50 on the cadet list. That means I'm waiting 5 classes to get my foot in the door.
It's impossible to know where I fall on there, but in October they sent me an official offer with a date of march 19th. I don't know how that's going to change post-Feb cancellation. That's what is killing me. Maybe over the top, but all I can think about is receiving a phone call or email in April that the program is dissolving and I'm being released from the program and CJO.
01-17-2024, 09:18 AM
#4362
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2023
Posts: 180
Dude... take a breath & relax. The attrition is 30-40 a month and everyone I know here minus a few people have apps out / interviews / waiting on class dates. Attrition will go up, not down. You have an offer for March so that's likely where you'll be. The company dissolving the cadet program will not happen, they can lock you in for longer since you guys generally have little to no turbine time.
You sound little desperate and self entitled. Their are people that have spent years trying to get an opportunity to fly at a major (regardless of the opinions here about frontier, it's still a major). The fact that experienced pilots (with better resumes most likely) are cutting in front of the cadets is a good thing. Meanwhile i recommend reading up on 121 ops, so you come here prepared. Your day will come, chill out.
Entitled? Don't mean to come across that way. I'm not asking to be placed #1, I'm just hoping to know our fate sometime soon. Any clarity would be nice.
If you have readings to recommend, I'd love to hear about it. So far, I've been poking through The Turbine Pilot's Manual and Flying the Line.
Last edited by LifetimeCFI; 01-17-2024 at 09:38 AM.
01-17-2024, 10:09 AM
#4363
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 158
I have no doubt they're going to hire and maybe hire quite a few.
The question is whether they value the cadets or not. Let's say they have 40 per class. Let's say they allocate 10 slots to cadet hires per class. Let's say I'm #50 on the cadet list. That means I'm waiting 5 classes to get my foot in the door.
It's impossible to know where I fall on there, but in October they sent me an official offer with a date of march 19th. I don't know how that's going to change post-Feb cancellation. That's what is killing me. Maybe over the top, but all I can think about is receiving a phone call or email in April that the program is dissolving and I'm being released from the program and CJO.
The question is whether they value the cadets or not. Let's say they have 40 per class. Let's say they allocate 10 slots to cadet hires per class. Let's say I'm #50 on the cadet list. That means I'm waiting 5 classes to get my foot in the door.
It's impossible to know where I fall on there, but in October they sent me an official offer with a date of march 19th. I don't know how that's going to change post-Feb cancellation. That's what is killing me. Maybe over the top, but all I can think about is receiving a phone call or email in April that the program is dissolving and I'm being released from the program and CJO.
Untill then, non Cadets will be mopped up and given class dates while they meter a few of you Cadets into each class. They know you don't have the experience to go anywhere else so you will be in a holding pin for insurance.
01-17-2024, 10:32 AM
#4364
Almost there
Joined APC: Apr 2021
Posts: 1,283
I have no doubt they're going to hire and maybe hire quite a few.
The question is whether they value the cadets or not. Let's say they have 40 per class. Let's say they allocate 10 slots to cadet hires per class. Let's say I'm #50 on the cadet list. That means I'm waiting 5 classes to get my foot in the door.
It's impossible to know where I fall on there, but in October they sent me an official offer with a date of march 19th. I don't know how that's going to change post-Feb cancellation. That's what is killing me. Maybe over the top, but all I can think about is receiving a phone call or email in April that the program is dissolving and I'm being released from the program and CJO.
The question is whether they value the cadets or not. Let's say they have 40 per class. Let's say they allocate 10 slots to cadet hires per class. Let's say I'm #50 on the cadet list. That means I'm waiting 5 classes to get my foot in the door.
It's impossible to know where I fall on there, but in October they sent me an official offer with a date of march 19th. I don't know how that's going to change post-Feb cancellation. That's what is killing me. Maybe over the top, but all I can think about is receiving a phone call or email in April that the program is dissolving and I'm being released from the program and CJO.
01-17-2024, 01:06 PM
#4367
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 42
Is it in bad taste for ALPA to make ads and ask the cadets to not come here? I’m not trying to be mean or harsh, but it looks like what they’re doing (not on purpose of course) is delaying and hindering our chance to get a industry standard contract sometime soon.
01-17-2024, 02:42 PM
#4368
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Position: TBD
Posts: 90
Your only value to F9 is leverage for management to avoid signing an industry standard CBA. Once that CBA is signed, the Cadet program will be disolved.
Untill then, non Cadets will be mopped up and given class dates while they meter a few of you Cadets into each class. They know you don't have the experience to go anywhere else so you will be in a holding pin for insurance.
Untill then, non Cadets will be mopped up and given class dates while they meter a few of you Cadets into each class. They know you don't have the experience to go anywhere else so you will be in a holding pin for insurance.
01-17-2024, 03:28 PM
#4369
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2023
Posts: 36
I’ll probably get bashed for this but….
Is it in bad taste for ALPA to make ads and ask the cadets to not come here? I’m not trying to be mean or harsh, but it looks like what they’re doing (not on purpose of course) is delaying and hindering our chance to get a industry standard contract sometime soon.
Is it in bad taste for ALPA to make ads and ask the cadets to not come here? I’m not trying to be mean or harsh, but it looks like what they’re doing (not on purpose of course) is delaying and hindering our chance to get a industry standard contract sometime soon.
01-17-2024, 03:42 PM
#4370
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2020
Posts: 35
Fair.
Little desperate? Quite possibly. My personal living situation is not sustainable and im on borrowed time, original jan/feb class date was a nice ticket out of that. Since I'm waiting on class date, I can't take a job that would pay more or I have to give up the CJO. I'm sure it'll all work out but it's just a tad bit stressful being in the dark.
Entitled? Don't mean to come across that way. I'm not asking to be placed #1, I'm just hoping to know our fate sometime soon. Any clarity would be nice.
If you have readings to recommend, I'd love to hear about it. So far, I've been poking through The Turbine Pilot's Manual and Flying the Line.
Little desperate? Quite possibly. My personal living situation is not sustainable and im on borrowed time, original jan/feb class date was a nice ticket out of that. Since I'm waiting on class date, I can't take a job that would pay more or I have to give up the CJO. I'm sure it'll all work out but it's just a tad bit stressful being in the dark.
Entitled? Don't mean to come across that way. I'm not asking to be placed #1, I'm just hoping to know our fate sometime soon. Any clarity would be nice.
If you have readings to recommend, I'd love to hear about it. So far, I've been poking through The Turbine Pilot's Manual and Flying the Line.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
