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04-20-2019, 10:14 AM
#381
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Maybe off topic so I apologize in advance. What is the thought about how implementing PBS will effect QOL for Frontier Pilots.
Will this process benefit the senior group more, the junior pilots, or will it be roughly the same net effect for all? Pros and cons to each side?
TMB
Will this process benefit the senior group more, the junior pilots, or will it be roughly the same net effect for all? Pros and cons to each side?
TMB
04-20-2019, 10:29 AM
#382
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It hasn’t been discussed much as most of us don’t know. Having worked under PBS before I will say I believe it will benefit the very senior and the very junior the most.
As a junior pilot stuck on perpetual reserve, a week of vacation may actually be the ticket to holding a line one month while there are a lot of guys senior to you on reserve. That was one thing that really bothered me about PBS at my previous airline, but it comes with the territory.
The senior pilots will get to cherry pick their trips and still take advantage (although not quite as much as current book) of working over their vacations.
In general I think we will see less trips available in open time and on the trade board because more people will get what they want in the initial bid.
As a junior pilot stuck on perpetual reserve, a week of vacation may actually be the ticket to holding a line one month while there are a lot of guys senior to you on reserve. That was one thing that really bothered me about PBS at my previous airline, but it comes with the territory.
The senior pilots will get to cherry pick their trips and still take advantage (although not quite as much as current book) of working over their vacations.
In general I think we will see less trips available in open time and on the trade board because more people will get what they want in the initial bid.
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04-20-2019, 08:18 PM
#383
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It hasn’t been discussed much as most of us don’t know. Having worked under PBS before I will say I believe it will benefit the very senior and the very junior the most.
As a junior pilot stuck on perpetual reserve, a week of vacation may actually be the ticket to holding a line one month while there are a lot of guys senior to you on reserve. That was one thing that really bothered me about PBS at my previous airline, but it comes with the territory.
The senior pilots will get to cherry pick their trips and still take advantage (although not quite as much as current book) of working over their vacations.
In general I think we will see less trips available in open time and on the trade board because more people will get what they want in the initial bid.
As a junior pilot stuck on perpetual reserve, a week of vacation may actually be the ticket to holding a line one month while there are a lot of guys senior to you on reserve. That was one thing that really bothered me about PBS at my previous airline, but it comes with the territory.
The senior pilots will get to cherry pick their trips and still take advantage (although not quite as much as current book) of working over their vacations.
In general I think we will see less trips available in open time and on the trade board because more people will get what they want in the initial bid.
04-21-2019, 04:27 PM
#384
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But as another poster stated, without a PBS LOA in writing it’s somewhat difficult to predict.
04-21-2019, 04:32 PM
#385
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This was my understanding as well.
04-21-2019, 05:07 PM
#386
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Not exactly, at least how I understand it. I think it will be at union scheduling committee discretion but they can withhold UP TO 4% for open time. But they may opt to reduce that amount in favor of awarding more hard lines and honoring more preferences.
But as another poster stated, without a PBS LOA in writing it’s somewhat difficult to predict.
But as another poster stated, without a PBS LOA in writing it’s somewhat difficult to predict.
04-22-2019, 03:07 AM
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Boeing is lucky that the 777/787 are successful and that's why you can see that the company still has their head above water. Hopfully they fix this issue for good.
04-22-2019, 04:43 AM
#388
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I was partially wrong...it's not a minimum, but it's not difficult to predict because the written PBS LOA we already have says "Open time for any bid period shall be 4% of the total bid period pairing credit at the time of Final Schedule." Not a minimum, not a maximum, not at SSC discretion.
04-22-2019, 12:34 PM
#389
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