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Old 02-21-2022, 07:27 AM
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In last week's interviews it was confirmed that new hire hotels will be provided.
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Old 02-21-2022, 07:36 AM
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In last week's interviews it was confirmed that new hire hotels will be provided.
Really? That’s a small step but in the right direction.

I wonder how the Union was notified?
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Old 02-21-2022, 07:39 AM
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Really? That’s a small step but in the right direction.

I wonder how the Union was notified?
Just what we were told in person during interviews.
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Old 02-21-2022, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by dracir1
I wonder how the Union was notified?
This post.

Only joking a little, sadly.
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Old 02-21-2022, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dracir1
Really? That’s a small step but in the right direction.

I wonder how the Union was notified?
Confirmed, hotels will be provided for new hires
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Old 02-21-2022, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CJPilot7
Confirmed, hotels will be provided for new hires
That’s great news.
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Old 02-21-2022, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CJPilot7
Confirmed, hotels will be provided for new hires
I don’t see how it would be contractually compliant for the company to provide hotels to new hires. Not that the company cares about our CBA, but it is a bit disappointing when pilots start getting excited about the concept…and just to be clear, I think it would be great for new hires to get company provided hotels, however the company does not just get to unilaterally disregard our CBA to fix the staffing issue that they created, sorry. Of course the company could raise 1st year pay, that actually is contractually compliant, but they would have to do that for all first year pilots, which, of course, they have zero interest in doing.
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Old 02-21-2022, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by monkeybrains
I don’t see how it would be contractually compliant for the company to provide hotels to new hires. Not that the company cares about our CBA, but it is a bit disappointing when pilots start getting excited about the concept…and just to be clear, I think it would be great for new hires to get company provided hotels, however the company does not just get to unilaterally disregard our CBA to fix the staffing issue that they created, sorry. Of course the company could raise 1st year pay, that actually is contractually compliant, but they would have to do that for all first year pilots, which, of course, they have zero interest in doing.
Genuine question. Where in our CBA does it cover new hire hotels or lack there of? Obviously there is LOA 4 about first year pay, but I don’t remember a single thing about new hire accommodations. How is providing hotels to new hires disregarding the CBA and not contractually compliant?
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Old 02-21-2022, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TOGALOCK
Genuine question. Where in our CBA does it cover new hire hotels or lack there of? Obviously there is LOA 4 about first year pay, but I don’t remember a single thing about new hire accommodations. How is providing hotels to new hires disregarding the CBA and not contractually compliant?
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The company shall provide and pay for any hotel room and transportation for company purposes when the pilot is required by the company to be OUT OF the pilot’s domicile.
New hire pilots are considered to be domiciled in DEN for the first 45 days of employment per LOA 24. They are not eligible for company paid hotels, just like DEN based fos going to upgrade or den based pilots in recurrent, or mia based pilots going to sim.
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Old 02-21-2022, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by monkeybrains
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The company shall provide and pay for any hotel room and transportation for company purposes when the pilot is required by the company to be OUT OF the pilot’s domicile.
New hire pilots are considered to be domiciled in DEN for the first 45 days of employment per LOA 24. They are not eligible for company paid hotels, just like DEN based fos going to upgrade or den based pilots in recurrent, or mia based pilots going to sim.
So that says when the company must provide hotels, but it doesn’t say that they aren’t allowed to at any other time. I see your point, but this seems a bit grey to me. Grey area in a contract always favors the company.
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