Hiring / training
02-20-2022, 07:20 PM
#2461
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 104
I responded to this same post in the Spirit “Attrition” thread, but I’ll post my reply here too as it’s equally relevant. This is disappointing math, but not how you may think. This means that we need to net 10.5 pilots per month for the next 5 years. That’s not a lot and it may not take the massive contract gains we’re all hoping for to make that happen. A few minor tweaks and a few extra bucks might actually do it. Know what you want, make it known to the union, and vote no if the joint TA is not good enough in your eyes. This is an opportunity like never before. Don’t sell yourself short.
02-20-2022, 07:21 PM
#2462
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 311
My math comes out to 53 pilots per month net gain starting 2 months ago. That means we are already over 100 people behind where we need to be based off attrition.
throw in some retirements and people leaving for legacies we have some major hiring on the horizon.
throw in some retirements and people leaving for legacies we have some major hiring on the horizon.
02-20-2022, 07:27 PM
#2463
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
Position: Lineholder
Posts: 1,425
Is the 15 pilots per plane coming from the current setup? Perhaps mgt is thinking a leaner ratio going forward. Just one fewer pilot per plane is significant
02-20-2022, 07:29 PM
#2464
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Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,034
Holy moly. The wife and I enjoyed a little too much wine tonight apparently. Yes, both of your math is correct. I misread the original post and thought planedrive was saying that we only needed 630 over the next 5 years. So, my math was right. My reading comprehension was very wrong. Carry on. Nothing to see here.
02-20-2022, 07:35 PM
#2465
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 104
Holy moly. The wife and I enjoyed a little too much wine tonight apparently. Yes, both of your math is correct. I misread the original post and thought planedrive was saying that we only needed 630 over the next 5 years. So, my math was right. My reading comprehension was very wrong. Carry on. Nothing to see here.
02-20-2022, 07:47 PM
#2466
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,114
The regionals have 20,000 pilots and they are about to come apart. With too few CAs staying to fly the lines needed to upgrade new FOs to CA-eligible, the whole system will come apart. There will be a whole lot of 2500 hour guys with 500-750 hrs of 121 SIC looking for a job within the next 2-3 years.
02-21-2022, 04:53 AM
#2469
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,335
That was the original plan at Spirit, but we’re unable to handle that. Lucky to get 40/mo through. CA upgrades and new hires were scaled way back. It’s obvious that we’ll just take less planes than we’ve ordered.
02-21-2022, 05:14 AM
#2470
Bus Driver ordinarie
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Position: Airbus CA
Posts: 555
they’ll retire thirsty ceos and take shiny new neos instead. Real growth with be capped; perhaps, but casm will decrease. Which is the point.
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