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Old 12-19-2018, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FollowMe
Discount pilot.



I expect that labor be fairly compensated and that management not steal your money. Accepting less than market rate and accepting less than full retro to the amendable date tells the management team all they need to know. They will do the same every cycle and you will crawl on your hands and kneees to lick their boots and thank them for being so gracious as to allow you to work for them.

Some people have no self respect.
Again you beat your chest like an ape and tell people they have no self respect. Can you explain why you work at Frontier? That in and of itself is a lack of self respect, especially if you could go elsewhere. You decided to fly an airbus at a discount instead of toughing it out elsewhere and and moving to a big 6 carrier. Sounds like boot licking to me.
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“Beat your chest like an ape”?

Racist insinuations like this are unacceptable.

Begone.
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Old 12-19-2018, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
I'm sure they a giddy about writing a $75,000,000 check to us. Not
Not is right.
Look at Wow as an example, they throw $75 million around like its chump change.


This contract will go down in history as the great pilot give away.
We’re handing over a concessionary contract in the best of times, can’t wat to see how this group folds when the economy tanks.
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Old 12-19-2018, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
I'm sure they a giddy about writing a $75,000,000 check to us. Not
Of course they are giddy. The $75,000,000 is only a portion of the owed money they have pocketed because of your discounted pay. It is a fraction of what full retro would have cost them.

In addition, they get the cheapest Airbus workforce for the next 7 to 9 years.
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Old 12-19-2018, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by butthert
Again you beat your chest like an ape and tell people they have no self respect. Can you explain why you work at Frontier? That in and of itself is a lack of self respect, especially if you could go elsewhere. You decided to fly an airbus at a discount instead of toughing it out elsewhere and and moving to a big 6 carrier. Sounds like boot licking to me.
I have worked at Frontier for several years (I am at the top of the pay scale). Frontier used to be a great job. Frontier used to be a respectable place to work. There was a time when Frontier pilots were among the highest paid Airbus operators in North America.

I didn’t decide to work at a discount carrier instead of toughing it out elsewhere. I have no desire to move on to a big 6 carrier.

I’m also not going to apologize to you for choosing to stay here and trying to make this a good place to work again. I’m not going to apologize for trying to raise the bar, both at this airline and within the industry.
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Old 12-19-2018, 09:09 AM
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“Beat your chest like an ape”?

Racist insinuations like this are unacceptable.

Begone.
Who said anything about race (other than you)?
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Old 12-19-2018, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Prettywhacked1
“Beat your chest like an ape”?

Racist insinuations like this are unacceptable.

Begone.
MOD INPUT: You're the only one bringing racism to discussion, stop it now.
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Old 12-19-2018, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Prettywhacked1
“Beat your chest like an ape”?

Racist insinuations like this are unacceptable.

Begone.

Seriously! Racist how? Please don't drink and post!
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Old 12-19-2018, 11:56 AM
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Sent a few days ago to the employees of WOW.





Dear friends,

After an incredible journey since founding WOW air seven years ago, we are now faced with the biggest and most difficult restructuring in the history of the airline which includes making some very tough decisions.

This involves significantly reducing our fleet from 20 to 11 aircraft and not taking delivery of the four A330neo, scaling back our operations accordingly and therefore I am very sad to say laying off a large number of people.



This action is devastating given the hard work all of you have been doing and I wish there was any other way possible. We have looked at multiple possibilities but unfortunately this reduction is the only credible way we can see to save WOW air and build a foundation that we can grow from again.

I am deeply sorry for having to take this extreme action since it will affect many of you dedicated WOW employees and a large number of consultants and temporary hires. However, I sincerely hope you will understand that this is necessary in order to save the remaining almost 1000 jobs at WOW air and allow us to continue to fly to and from Iceland and across the Atlantic.

We are going back to our roots as an ultra-low cost airline and focus on our core business which served us so well in our first years up until 2017. Instead of sharpening our ultra-low cost model based on the success of 2015 and 2016 we started complicating our business by adding the wide body aircraft and introducing Premium and Comfy products which is far from our original vision. In short, we lost focus and started behaving like a legacy airline.

These mistakes have almost cost us the company as our losses in 2018 have escalated in recent months due to poor financial results. It’s very important to note that I cannot blame anybody but myself for those mistakes as I personally championed the A330 fleet expansions, premium seating and to fly further east and west.

This is a very painful lesson since at the same time we have built something unique with WOW air and while this will require us to take one difficult step back in the short term, I am convinced it will enable us to take two steps forward in the long term and ensure that WOW air will thrive in the future.

With the prospect of getting Indigo Partners as our investors I want to go back to our original vision and demonstrate that we can indeed build a great low cost long haul airline.

For what it’s worth I want to thank you and I also want to make the promise that once we start growing again you will be the first that we will welcome back.

There will be a staff meeting at 1pm today and myself and the management team will be around all day to answer any questions and concerns you might have.

Sincerely

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Old 12-20-2018, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Prettywhacked1
“Beat your chest like an ape”?

Racist insinuations like this are unacceptable.

Begone.
Lmfao. Really?! He never said anything about race. Oversensitive much?
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