Originally Posted by Powderkeg

To Mr. Hyde...are you going to set the date? Anybody hired after xx/xx/20xx is now only worthy of running the radios? I hope we don’t resort to kicking the dog as it’s misplaced and not helpful. Also I hate when people throw the term “scab” around so lightly. Let’s save that for specifically what it is...a pilot “still collecting all benefits” while others don’t.

Originally Posted by Bolo

Duct Mon, your penchant for the drama is over the top. I personally wish you would have not come to Frontier as well! I am very sorry that F9 has not paid for your crashpad as well. You knew what you were getting into! Now man up and quit being a p***y!

Originally Posted by DrJekyll MrHyde

Another bump..

If you can’t read between the lines our union is basically screaming “DO NOT COME HERE!!”

I understand some people have unique situations, but in general, coming to work at Frontier is a terrible idea. You’re really gambling big on a couple years of your life by signing that training contract. If you’re qualified to come to F9 you’re highly likely to be picked up at a Legacy in the next couple years. There will likely be growth here, but Frontier will remain a sh!t company. Contract talks have completely stalled, we have been playing the wait and see game for a very long time now. If you come here and hold your breath, you’ll turn blue like the rest of us. Strive for better, stay away. I’m a Captain, and I’m trying to leave. I would be in the top 15% in 7 years (all things equal) if I stayed, but I’m trying to leave. I have an easy commute and I like the Airbus, but I’m trying to leave. I dislike interviewing and starting over, but I’m trying to leave.

It hasn’t happened yet, but if this pilot group doesn’t get a decent contract attitudes will become very sour. And the new guys are always the first to take the heat in this kind of situation. If that happens here I hope you like being a radio operator and being treated like a scab (and I’m not speculating whether you deserve it).

Fair warning. I wish you the best of luck in your career.

Originally Posted by Big E 757

When you interviewed at Frontier, did you tell them that you believed in the ULCC business model? Now do you understand why they ask that, and only hire those that do, swear allegiance to the ULCC model?

Originally Posted by Big E 757

When you interviewed at Frontier, did you tell them that you believed in the ULCC business model? Now do you understand why they ask that, and only hire those that do, swear allegiance to the ULCC model?

Originally Posted by Mugatu

I sure as * didn’t sign up for the ULCC model when I got hired either. It also doesn’t mean * when it comes to paying us industry AVERAGE. Franke and management are simply, and very clearly, raping us.

Originally Posted by ColdWhiskey

I didn't sign up for the ULCC model or industry average. I got hired at a time when Frontier had the LEADING Airbus narrowbody pay rate. We were flying Airbus A-319s and A-318's.

Granted, it was pre bankruptcy for us, and some of the other operators were already operating on a bankruptcy pay scale (those operators have since significantly leapfrogged us).

But there was a time when Frontier had the top A-320 rates in North America.

And now our management is trying to convince us that we don't even deserve industry average because we have become a ULCC.

Don't fall for it!! Industry CORRECT pilot pay will not make or break this airline.

Originally Posted by ColdWhiskey

I didn't sign up for the ULCC model or industry average. I got hired at a time when Frontier had the LEADING Airbus narrowbody pay rate. We were flying Airbus A-319s and A-318's.

Granted, it was pre bankruptcy for us, and some of the other operators were already operating on a bankruptcy pay scale (those operators have since significantly leapfrogged us).

But there was a time when Frontier had the top A-320 rates in North America.

And now our management is trying to convince us that we don't even deserve industry average because we have become a ULCC.

Don't fall for it!! Industry CORRECT pilot pay will not make or break this airline.

Originally Posted by Missed Appch

Hey! Maybe Barry will decide to give us $1000 bonus like AA and Southwest did.

And yes, this is sarcasm.