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Old 08-13-2017, 12:06 PM
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The frontier airline profile needs to be updated with total retirements by year.

Does anyone have this information to share here?
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Old 08-13-2017, 12:15 PM
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Also, the total pilots has been stuck at 1007 for at least a year.
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Minimal. Nobody is going to Frontier based on the attrition.
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Minimal. Nobody is going to Frontier based on the attrition.
Seriously minimal. I took a quick glance once and it was 10-15 people a year for the foreseeable future. So you're looking at about 1% of the group retiring each year. Maybe someone else can chime in but it seems like most everyone is sticking around until they age or medical out. With the way their equity agreement is structured I'm under the impression they get a bigger payout the longer they work.
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Old 08-13-2017, 02:31 PM
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Current pilot group was 1140 for August.
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Agreed. I did a quick glance at the birthdates, and attrition due to retirements does not pick up until well after 2025 and then it is only 20-30/year. I see no normal attrition at all. I think a lot of pilots are in a wait and see regarding the contract as well as a possible buyout/merger by a competitor. There are also a bunch of FO hires that have no PIC that are stuck. I would not come to F9 at this point hoping for a quick upgrade and growth opportunity. You will be an FO for at least 5 years or more.
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Attrition and retirements are different. As previously stated, we have very very few retirements. However, I'd imagine over the next few years we will definitely see a chunk of FOs leaving for the big 3.
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Attrition and retirements are different. As previously stated, we have very very few retirements. However, I'd imagine over the next few years we will definitely see a chunk of FOs leaving for the big 3.
Excellent distinction.

Would anyone be willing to post these numbers? Thanks..
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Every single person I know that's been here less than five years (and under 50) is trying to get out.

As they should. You really are better off at any other major. Certainly for the time being. Considering the hiring updates with fewer numbers than advertised by the company and less upgrades, I suspect attrition will grow.
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Originally Posted by Boeing314
Excellent distinction.

Would anyone be willing to post these numbers? Thanks..
When I had recurrent a few months ago the CP said it was about 6 per month.
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