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Old 12-31-2017, 03:30 AM
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Frontier can now keep their S-1 filing confidential until it’s time to do the road shows. Makes we wonder where they stand now.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-30/sec-to-expand-confidential-ipo-filing-ability-to-all-companies
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Old 12-31-2017, 05:28 AM
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Frontier can now keep their S-1 filing confidential until it’s time to do the road shows. Makes we wonder where they stand now.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-all-companies

Thank God we got a glimps in their previous filing. At least their lies were brought to the light for all to see. After reading ALPA’s letter to the NMB, it’s hard to imagine that they would allow the companies behavior to continue with out consequences. It’s frustrating that our good behavior has seemingly gotten us nowhere, although I’m still holding out hope we’ll get some good news in the next few months.

With that said, I’m planning for the worst; I’ve started applying/updating everywhere and most of the FO’s I’ve spoken with are doing the same thing. I’ve been optimistic this will turn into a great place to work, but the future at F9 is still a big question mark. Mandentory retirements at the legacies are a certainty. If you’re <40 it makes a lot of mathematical sense to leave.
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Thank God we got a glimps in their previous filing. At least their lies were brought to the light for all to see. After reading ALPA’s letter to the NMB, it’s hard to imagine that they would allow the companies behavior to continue with out consequences. It’s frustrating that our good behavior has seemingly gotten us nowhere, although I’m still holding out hope we’ll get some good news in the next few months.

With that said, I’m planning for the worst; I’ve started applying/updating everywhere and most of the FO’s I’ve spoken with are doing the same thing. I’ve been optimistic this will turn into a great place to work, but the future at F9 is still a big question mark. Mandentory retirements at the legacies are a certainty. If you’re <40 it makes a lot of mathematical sense to leave.
I have 100% confidence in our union and their ability to eventually get us something on which we can vote. However, they will not be able to negotiate a new corporate personality. The union will get us more $'s per hour, paid deadheads, a few more points in retirement, etc., but you will still be working for the worst sh!thead management in the business. They will lie, cheat, and continue to steal. They will put themselves and their earnings first and the employees and passengers will stay on the turd end of the stick. Unfortunately, this will not become a place you're proud to work, just because you have a new contract!
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Old 12-31-2017, 09:19 AM
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Open time is a joke....
We must have 5:15 min day!
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Old 12-31-2017, 06:01 PM
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Think twice before coming here. This is a little piece of what our union reps are telling us.
“We will continue to fight hard for the contract we have earned and deserve, but it's impossible to know what the result of our NMB request will be, or how long it might take to achieve an industry standard contract. So please take the steps that are best for you and your family, prepare fully for all possible outcomes, and make sure that you explore the many pilot career opportunities and choices that will exist in 2018.”
Many FO’s and even junior CA’s are updating apps and resumes. This will be a long hard fought battle with an unknown out come.
Know what you are getting yourself into.
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Old 12-31-2017, 09:01 PM
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Think twice before coming here. This is a little piece of what our union reps are telling us.
“We will continue to fight hard for the contract we have earned and deserve, but it's impossible to know what the result of our NMB request will be, or how long it might take to achieve an industry standard contract. So please take the steps that are best for you and your family, prepare fully for all possible outcomes, and make sure that you explore the many pilot career opportunities and choices that will exist in 2018.”
Many FO’s and even junior CA’s are updating apps and resumes. This will be a long hard fought battle with an unknown out come.
Know what you are getting yourself into.
No kidding... Everyone needs to go read the W2 thread in the main forum. We are so far behind it's obscene. My New Years resolution is to finally move on in 2018. Good luck to us all...
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Old 01-01-2018, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Duct Mon
Think twice before coming here. This is a little piece of what our union reps are telling us.
“We will continue to fight hard for the contract we have earned and deserve, but it's impossible to know what the result of our NMB request will be, or how long it might take to achieve an industry standard contract. So please take the steps that are best for you and your family, prepare fully for all possible outcomes, and make sure that you explore the many pilot career opportunities and choices that will exist in 2018.”
Many FO’s and even junior CA’s are updating apps and resumes. This will be a long hard fought battle with an unknown out come.
Know what you are getting yourself into.
Sure seems like a couple people on here just don't get it.
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Old 01-01-2018, 05:58 PM
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Sure seems like a couple people on here just don't get it.
Lol...What am I supposed to get? Reality for you is a bitter pill to swallow?
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Old 01-01-2018, 06:03 PM
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Lol...What am I supposed to get? Reality for you is a bitter pill to swallow?
No, I’m agreeing with you. I apologize if it came off differently. I’m referring to the guys who keep posting things that are counter to what the union is putting out.
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Old 01-11-2018, 05:35 PM
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Well, over 24hrs have passed since ALPA met with the NMB members to discuss status. I’m guessing it did not go well, because it takes longer to package bad news than good news. I doubt anyone is surprised. Sure glad Biffle took time away from the buffet line to come to DC to help prolong our decade-old bankruptcy contract.
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