Frontier Negotiations Discussion
04-03-2017, 10:44 AM
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04-03-2017, 10:53 AM
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From what I understand, it's 4 days off between "work blocks", not "trips". So, you may have a 4 day trip, backed up to a 2 day trip (or any conceivable combination of trips), to complete your "work block". Seems like that would encourage the company to fill up six full days of flying with any crazy combination of trips, just to maximize your "work block" efficiency. I could be very wrong. Maybe a Spirit guy can chime in how this work rule plays out in practice, with regards to actual schedule creation.
If you want 4 days OFF between pairings, that's easy to accomplish at F9 already via swap, drop, add, ect.......be careful what u wish for!
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04-03-2017, 02:35 PM
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I just confirmed that too. The official reason was not for calling in fatigue, but for "not being at the gate 45 minutes prior to the flight", and a fatigue call happened as well. Pretty sure the FOM says 30 minutes prior, but I wasn't there to understand all of the events.
04-03-2017, 02:37 PM
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This +1,000,000,000,0000%. Mandatory 4 days off in between BLOCKS (not pairings), which is what Spirit has, BLOWS! Does back to back 3 days sound good, or a 4 day followed by a 2 day, or a 4 day followed by 2 day trips. Do you like having inconsistent days off, I.e roll from Fri-Mon OFF to start month, and end with Mon-Thur OFF? Because this is what happens at Spirit on a LOT of lines, solely because of mandatory 4 days off between BLOCKS! I have friends at Spirit and have seen their bid packets, so I'm not pulling this out of my a** I would be LIVID if we implemented this!!! It's straight garbage!
If you want 4 days OFF between pairings, that's easy to accomplish at F9 already via swap, drop, add, ect.......be careful what u wish for!
If you want 4 days OFF between pairings, that's easy to accomplish at F9 already via swap, drop, add, ect.......be careful what u wish for!
04-03-2017, 04:47 PM
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I'm sorry hot-rod, but you're wrong. NO ONE gets suspended for calling in fatigued. If there was a suspension, there's a bigger story (as there usually is) and you're only being told 1/2 or maybe even 1/10 of the actual story. Read the FARs regarding 121 fatigue and then tell me if you think what you report could actually have legs.
04-03-2017, 06:10 PM
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There's more to the story than someone just calling in fatigued and getting suspended.
Saying there's more to the story (and there is or will be) has nothing to do with taking the companies side.
04-03-2017, 07:51 PM
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