Frontier Negotiations Discussion
12-08-2018, 11:16 AM
#4131
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 514
Dont get me wrong, I'm disappointed by a lot of this TA, but the markets "Comps" zeroed in on Spirit, so I'm not surprised we are right in line with them with this TA.
12-08-2018, 11:26 AM
#4132
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2017
Posts: 49
Thank you, I saw one of the yes voters cite the book "Flying the Line" trying to jam it to fit their perspective. Ridiculous! Problem is I don't think it's necessarily the new generation.
Last edited by Flipadelphia; 12-08-2018 at 11:42 AM.
12-08-2018, 11:47 AM
#4133
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 443
So from what I can see there about 30 loud enough people that will vote No, and all those will be cancelled out by 30 Yes votes. Do you really think there will half the company voting No? This is going to pass at 60% may as well accept that now. Or maybe stop b****ing in your echo chamber here on APC and talk to people...
Thanks Butthert. You really pulled a fast one there!!!
12-08-2018, 11:55 AM
#4134
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Joined APC: Jun 2016
Posts: 629
You need to add these then.
$2.00 vs $2.25
14hr long call & 3hr short call.
4 days off between pairings
LTD Own Occupation until 65
Company pays their portion of your med premium until 65.
321 Over ride
International override.
That’s just to be at their one year old deal.
Wake up people.
12-08-2018, 12:02 PM
#4135
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Joined APC: Nov 2018
Posts: 109
So from what I can see there about 30 loud enough people that will vote No, and all those will be cancelled out by 30 Yes votes. Do you really think there will half the company voting No? This is going to pass at 60% may as well accept that now. Or maybe stop b****ing in your echo chamber here on APC and talk to people...
Just another management troll....
Funny, I’ve talked to people at the:
school house,
crash pad,
and on the line.
I’ve only met one ‘yes’ voter.
That’s a pretty wide range of seat and seniority positions.
I’m sure you trolls realize that APC represents a pretty even sampling of our pilot force and the majority of us are going to send this TA backwards. I guess you guys are getting pretty nervous.
Just wait until you see all the NO VOTERS at the roadshows!!!
This TA is going to go down in flames!
12-08-2018, 12:04 PM
#4136
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 268
Just another management troll....
Funny, I’ve talked to people at the:
school house,
crash pad,
and on the line.
I’ve only met one ‘yes’ voter.
That’s a pretty wide range of seat and seniority positions.
I’m sure you trolls realize that APC represents a pretty even sampling of our pilot force and the majority of us are going to send this TA backwards. I guess you guys are getting pretty nervous.
Just wait until you see all the NO VOTERS at the roadshows!!!
This TA is going to go down in flames!
Funny, I’ve talked to people at the:
school house,
crash pad,
and on the line.
I’ve only met one ‘yes’ voter.
That’s a pretty wide range of seat and seniority positions.
I’m sure you trolls realize that APC represents a pretty even sampling of our pilot force and the majority of us are going to send this TA backwards. I guess you guys are getting pretty nervous.
Just wait until you see all the NO VOTERS at the roadshows!!!
This TA is going to go down in flames!
12-08-2018, 12:08 PM
#4137
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 497
Just another management troll....
Funny, I’ve talked to people at the:
school house,
crash pad,
and on the line.
I’ve only met one ‘yes’ voter.
That’s a pretty wide range of seat and seniority positions.
I’m sure you trolls realize that APC represents a pretty even sampling of our pilot force and the majority of us are going to send this TA backwards. I guess you guys are getting pretty nervous.
Just wait until you see all the NO VOTERS at the roadshows!!!
This TA is going to go down in flames!
Funny, I’ve talked to people at the:
school house,
crash pad,
and on the line.
I’ve only met one ‘yes’ voter.
That’s a pretty wide range of seat and seniority positions.
I’m sure you trolls realize that APC represents a pretty even sampling of our pilot force and the majority of us are going to send this TA backwards. I guess you guys are getting pretty nervous.
Just wait until you see all the NO VOTERS at the roadshows!!!
This TA is going to go down in flames!
12-08-2018, 12:08 PM
#4138
Slave
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Position: Hot tub
Posts: 1,411
12-08-2018, 12:11 PM
#4139
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 104
Really? Hmmmm. Right in line?
You need to add these then.
$2.00 vs $2.25
14hr long call & 3hr short call.
4 days off between pairings
LTD Own Occupation until 65
Company pays their portion of your med premium until 65.
321 Over ride
International override.
That’s just to be at their one year old deal.
Wake up people.
You need to add these then.
$2.00 vs $2.25
14hr long call & 3hr short call.
4 days off between pairings
LTD Own Occupation until 65
Company pays their portion of your med premium until 65.
321 Over ride
International override.
That’s just to be at their one year old deal.
Wake up people.
Block or better per leg
5 hours per day for vacation
75 vs 72 hour guarantee
1.25 over 82
And.....you don’t have to say “Spirit wings”!!!
Seriously though....no one of our flights would qualify for an international override under their definitions. Per Diem works out to be a loss of about $40/month (small potatoes). 321 overide is an additional 2% a month. Reserve rules? Who cares...I’m not on reserve. I’ll give you LTD....that one hurts!
12-08-2018, 12:12 PM
#4140
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 268
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