Frontier Negotiations Discussion
11-16-2018, 09:05 AM
#3421
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How about everyone gives and takes and for concessions of this nature that make the company more profitable, they give company wide profit sharing. May be more advantageous if all groups give a little for the overall health of the company. This will ensure you get your reward for giving PBS, but also allow the company to operate at higher net profits and grow out the competition. That is not meant to say give away the farm, just another way to look at it.
It would need to be done smartly. Let's say that for every $50 million the company receives in profit, the pilot group gets an additional 10% of that split pro rata. So, the first $50 million means we share $5 million. If the company profits $150 million, the pilots get 30% or $45 million. You can cap it at 50%. And pilots should get the option to receive their PS via a retirement plan that allows it to be tax deferred (or even free).
Profit sharing should have been our “counter” offer when PBS was introduced last minute.
Last edited by dracir1; 11-16-2018 at 09:41 AM.
11-16-2018, 09:19 AM
#3422
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Can anybody answer this question? For vacation slide with the new AIP do you slide your days prior to bidding or after the bid award comes out? Currently, we slide our days after the bid award. This is a very important question to me being able slide my vacation days after you are awarded your bid/PBS line for the month.
11-16-2018, 09:28 AM
#3423
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The big issue is when the vacation is placed on the schedule. Obviously, it benefits you most if it is placed on top of your schedule after line construction. Otherwise, it’ll just block trip from being added, which means less trips are dropped and less credit. Again, it all depends on language.
If we have language that puts vacation on after line construction and then we can slide it, we’ve negotiated very well.
11-16-2018, 10:39 AM
#3424
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Can anybody answer this question? For vacation slide with the new AIP do you slide your days prior to bidding or after the bid award comes out? Currently, we slide our days after the bid award. This is a very important question to me being able slide my vacation days after you are awarded your bid/PBS line for the month.
11-16-2018, 12:57 PM
#3427
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Go reread my post that you quoted. You can clearly see I was responding to a post about ALPA attorneys...
Frontier Negotiations Discussion
11-16-2018, 03:55 PM
#3428
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Yeah, Angie NEVER speaks about something she doesn’t know. Which airline did she used to hire for? Oh yeah...she was never in the airlines. Unqualified, in my humble opinion.
11-16-2018, 06:41 PM
#3429
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Yeah, you make a great point! Screw this dog-and-pony show, I’m outta here! I’ll turn in my two weeks notice tomorrow and start class mid-December at UAL. Screw that.....I’m gonna call the duty phone right this second and tell them right where to stick this job....maybe even the System Chief Pilot himself will answer tonight!!!
Do you think as a newbie I’ll still get invited to the DEN employee Christmas party...that’s where I’ll be for training, right...Denver???Great....during ski season, too!!! What’s the training dept number? I’ll call them first thing in the AM and tell them I’m coming. I should probably fax them copies of my passport and certificates, too....maybe I’ll go ahead and fill out a W-4 or whatever it is and send that along with the other stuff. Do you think I’ll get DEN right out of IOE??? I think I’ll bid captain on the 787....hell, they’ll probably just go ahead and make me VP of goddamed flight ops.
I can’t wait to just show up and get started!!! Thanks for the suggestion......who would’ve ever thought it could be this easy to just leave and go somewhere else!!!
I’m gonna go ahead and get off APC now and go on the M&H website and order my new uniform and nifty hat!!! No.......maybe first I should call my girlfriend and tell her! She’s going to be so excited for me!
Do you think as a newbie I’ll still get invited to the DEN employee Christmas party...that’s where I’ll be for training, right...Denver???Great....during ski season, too!!! What’s the training dept number? I’ll call them first thing in the AM and tell them I’m coming. I should probably fax them copies of my passport and certificates, too....maybe I’ll go ahead and fill out a W-4 or whatever it is and send that along with the other stuff. Do you think I’ll get DEN right out of IOE??? I think I’ll bid captain on the 787....hell, they’ll probably just go ahead and make me VP of goddamed flight ops.
I can’t wait to just show up and get started!!! Thanks for the suggestion......who would’ve ever thought it could be this easy to just leave and go somewhere else!!!
I’m gonna go ahead and get off APC now and go on the M&H website and order my new uniform and nifty hat!!! No.......maybe first I should call my girlfriend and tell her! She’s going to be so excited for me!
11-16-2018, 08:04 PM
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