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11-09-2018, 04:09 PM

#3081

Tranquility

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Joined APC: Sep 2014

Position: Da Bus, Left

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I’m wondering what your union leadership is doing here. Either they believe y’all would pass this with some margin. Or, they are floating the AIP to gather additional intel and the Reps vote it down to not become a TA. Or, they want to send a message to management; passing this on to you, and you subsequently vote it down by a large margin would send a message. Either way, stay engaged with your reps and if possible the NC. They are a wealth of information that you should definitely tap.

Good luck!

11-09-2018, 04:21 PM

#3082

Harry Canyon

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Posts: 124

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tranquility

Ive had this exact thought. They have been literally handcuffed by the NMB, who will not allow more than an X percentage total raise in one contract, or who buys into the BS ‘peer group’ argument. They have gone as far as the gubment will allow. The only option left is to turn it over to the pilots and hope we will pick up the ball and demand what we deserve. This group has a reputation for bailing the company out every time, though. Praying that it doesnt backfire as there are still some guys - inexplicably - celebrating this news.

11-09-2018, 04:24 PM

#3083

Harry Canyon

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mugatu

If that’s the case, and the way Biffle has treated us, no way on that one item alone.

Exactly. I dont need a roadshow to tell me this is ridiculously low, and I stand to receive the theoretical largest share possible.

11-09-2018, 04:56 PM

#3084

singlepilot

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Posts: 231

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Originally Posted by Chief Brody

If you don't know the numbers then how do you know it's not enough?

Like i said.....not enough.

11-09-2018, 04:56 PM

#3085

Bruno82

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Position: BE9L, Captain

Posts: 419

Any change on new hire training pay and accommodations?

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11-09-2018, 05:10 PM

#3086

godsgift2aviatn

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Joined APC: Oct 2018

Position: A320 CA

Posts: 78

Quote:

Originally Posted by Missed Appch

With no 321 override, wouldn’t this make us the lowest paid 321 pilots in the country? On a per hour basis?

After our override has been added in the rates are basically identical.

11-09-2018, 05:25 PM

#3087

Harry Canyon

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wt93205

With half our pilot group at year 12 pay they are the ones who will vote it in. They need the money before they retire and don't want to wait for TA 2. The FO rates and the captain rates year 1-11 are terrible. As is the retirement not starting at 15 percent DOS.

I am at the 12+ year level and I am a solid NO.