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Old 11-09-2018, 03:06 PM
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Simply making an observation here.

The email gave very few details. This is still far from a full picture.
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Old 11-09-2018, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590
IIRC LOA 67 is separate. I’m probably wrong though.
Update is out. No matter your stance, it’s great to see some actually progress happen.
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Old 11-09-2018, 03:12 PM
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What about LTD?, Profit Sharing?
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Old 11-09-2018, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by wt93205
With half our pilot group at year 12 pay they are the ones who will vote it in. They need the money before they retire and don't want to wait for TA 2. The FO rates and the captain rates year 1-11 are terrible. As is the retirement not starting at 15 percent DOS.
No, it won’t be us voting it in. There may be a few, but they’re the ones that ask every few months how to slide a vacation or make up a sick day. They don’t understand what we’ve got and won’t take the time to read the new CBA. Not one friend I know of will vote for this. I’m hoping and praying our MEC grenades this before we waste a couple of months voting and wondering.. I’m old, but I’ve got time to get it right.
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Old 11-09-2018, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
Simply making an observation here.

The email gave very few details. This is still far from a full picture.
If it's anything like us. They only put the good stuff in the bullet points, and we find out about the not so good stuff when the full language comes out.
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Old 11-09-2018, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by wt93205
With half our pilot group at year 12 pay they are the ones who will vote it in. They need the money before they retire and don't want to wait for TA 2. The FO rates and the captain rates year 1-11 are terrible. As is the retirement not starting at 15 percent DOS.

WELL OVER 12 yrs
Big fat freaking NO........
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Old 11-09-2018, 03:23 PM
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I don’t know a single person who will vote yes on this thing. And that includes mostly 12+ year pilots.
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Old 11-09-2018, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by wt93205
With half our pilot group at year 12 pay they are the ones who will vote it in. They need the money before they retire and don't want to wait for TA 2. The FO rates and the captain rates year 1-11 are terrible. As is the retirement not starting at 15 percent DOS.
12 year CA still making WAY less than Alaska or JetBlue.
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Old 11-09-2018, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590
IIRC LOA 67 is separate. I’m probably wrong though.
I thought it was included in the $75 million.
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Old 11-09-2018, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
If it's anything like us. They only put the good stuff in the bullet points, and we find out about the not so good stuff when the full language comes out.
You’re right and all of the “good stuff” in this AIP SUCKS. Can’t wait to see the rest.

And the MEC is voting yes on this POS. Why wouldn’t F9 step backwards in this environment?
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