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Old 11-09-2018, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Absolutely, you have the vote, and I hope it will be used the right way.

(As far as Ruth's Chris goes, the Alaska arbitrator said they deserved less because of lack of international flying and bigger aircraft, so there's your complicated menu.... )
Touche. Well played
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Originally Posted by SFA320
Yeah they based that on the fact that apart of the deal was that pbs is included.
Oh good lord...

Did someone who’s NOT a F9 pilot start a thread in the Frontier category asking if we have an AIP yet? Are we gonna start another thread rehashing all that has already been discussed?

As mentioned previous to my comment, please see the Negotiations thread - and close this one.

F9 pilots already are having too many issues trying to stay unified we don’t need management / outsiders trying to gen up even more discord.
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Old 11-09-2018, 02:23 PM
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Ok guys and gals, bullet points are now available. It simply isn't good enough in my opinion. I appreciate the NC's efforts, but we'll have to go back to the table, we can do better.
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Ok guys and gals, bullet points are now available. It simply isn't good enough in my opinion. I appreciate the NC's efforts, but we'll have to go back to the table, we can do better.
Looks like a solid NO for me too....
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Not even close. Unreal.
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Hmm........
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Old 11-09-2018, 02:33 PM
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Ratification Bonus - $75 million will be paid to Frontier pilots within 30 days of contract ratification. The amount paid to each pilot will be allocated fairly in accordance with the ALPA Policy for lump-sum distributions. The methodology used to allocate the lump sum will be fully explained as part of the TA materials.

Enhanced Features – Deadhead will be paid at 100% instead of 50%, and the Trip Rig will improve to 3.5:1 instead of 3.75:1. A minimum duty period credit of 5 hours has been established.

Retirement – The Company will make specified contributions for retirement, regardless of any pilot deferrals. Contributions will increase to 15% of compensation over the life of the CBA, including paying out cash to the pilot after IRS limits have been reached (12% at DOS; 13% on 3/2/20; 14% on 3/2/21; and 15% on 3/2/22).

Hotels - Frontier will provide "long stay" hotels for layovers of 18 hours or more (at least 20 per year until all 18-hour layovers are covered by mid-2021).

Duration - the new contract includes a 5-year term but ALPA has the option to open negotiations 6 months early.

Incentive Pay - continues at 125% for credit hours over 82.

Work Rules - no changes to the DDL/DAG limits; VJA and JA will be replaced with a Premium Folder that pays a minimum of 150%; greater role for ALPA in developing pairing solutions; and vacation does not change until PBS implementation.

Reserves - will be entitled to add flying on days off (with all pay credit over guarantee); can access premium reserve days that will pay a minimum of 4 hours over guarantee; and will be offered more choices with respect to the composition of the reserve lines, among other things.

PBS - We have agreed to a PBS process that protects and enhances our unique work rule package. It includes the requirement for mutual agreement or arbitration of implementation issues; industry-leading vacation day value of 5 hours and the ability to slide vacations; sufficient open time guarantees; ALPA control of line construction; no downgrades as a result of PBS; and an expedited dispute resolution process that requires the arbitrator to give special consideration to the rule set at Delta, Hawaiian, JetBlue and Spirit, which are the other mainline carriers that are using the same NavBlue PBS vendor.



I'll attach pay tables below
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Old 11-09-2018, 02:40 PM
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12 year Captain: 240 rising to 270

12 year FO: 159 rising to 179

1st year FO: 57
2nd Year FO: 105

The rates would be in effect until March 2019, followed by roughly 3% raises. Annual raises would be in March of every year
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Reserve rules will ensure nothing in opentime will ever exist. Easy to drop a trip but time *****s will be picking at bones making it impossible to swap.

Edit: The word “reserves” was blacked out. I didn’t know it was a bad word. Ha!!!

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Nothing about LOA 67 resolution.
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