Frontier Negotiations Discussion
09-25-2018, 10:23 AM
#2441
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Ok, there are really 2 issues going on here: one is on Indigo but the more crucial issue falls squarely on us.
The first issue is Indigos continued reluctance to pay fair wages. Two ways to look at this really...companies that care about long term growth/stability view their employees as assets to making money and therefore want them to be as happy as possible given a bottom line profit that needs to be realized. They share that profit with their employees both as a way of rewarding them but moreso to encourage better production. It’s the win-win solution. Indigo has a different viewpoint in that they see their employees as necessary evils in the attempt to squeeze as much profit as possible (usually prior to selling at a huge profit). That philosophy is what it is - we are just the unlucky workers who inherited selfish ownership. That is the part that’s on them...
However, we aren’t without blame either. How many of us would be willing to vote YES to the proposed rates and contract package we have been negotiating with? I mean the VERY contract we propose from the company - would any of us be happy if Indigo gave us everything we wanted? I wouldn’t. I think we severely underbid. And who’s fault is that? The MEC? They work for us so we either have a rouge MEC or we did a poor job indicating to our representatives what our minimum acceptable conditions are. That’s on us...
So, while casting stones at Indigo and the NMB is certainly relevant, we need to ensure OUR house is in order. Perhaps we need to petition our MEC with increased stipulations (since both NK and JB have signed contracts since our initial bid) and go from there.
The first issue is Indigos continued reluctance to pay fair wages. Two ways to look at this really...companies that care about long term growth/stability view their employees as assets to making money and therefore want them to be as happy as possible given a bottom line profit that needs to be realized. They share that profit with their employees both as a way of rewarding them but moreso to encourage better production. It’s the win-win solution. Indigo has a different viewpoint in that they see their employees as necessary evils in the attempt to squeeze as much profit as possible (usually prior to selling at a huge profit). That philosophy is what it is - we are just the unlucky workers who inherited selfish ownership. That is the part that’s on them...
However, we aren’t without blame either. How many of us would be willing to vote YES to the proposed rates and contract package we have been negotiating with? I mean the VERY contract we propose from the company - would any of us be happy if Indigo gave us everything we wanted? I wouldn’t. I think we severely underbid. And who’s fault is that? The MEC? They work for us so we either have a rouge MEC or we did a poor job indicating to our representatives what our minimum acceptable conditions are. That’s on us...
So, while casting stones at Indigo and the NMB is certainly relevant, we need to ensure OUR house is in order. Perhaps we need to petition our MEC with increased stipulations (since both NK and JB have signed contracts since our initial bid) and go from there.
Agreed. We are going to have to hold out until they either want to sell or need to grow.
10-01-2018, 08:49 AM
#2447
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
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If that’s the case then nothing new will come of it. If they didn’t release us this summer then they’ not going to. My guess is the NMB is going to tell the NC that if they want a deal that they need to reconsider their increased ask. Otherwise back on ice.
I hope I’m wrong about that, but the NMB is such a worthless bunch of do-nothings.
I hope I’m wrong about that, but the NMB is such a worthless bunch of do-nothings.
10-01-2018, 09:42 AM
#2449
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