Frontier Negotiations Discussion
#2141
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
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Based on what happened at spirit, the instant you guys have "proof" that the status quo has changed, you need to put it in front of a judge. Spirit's May 2017 schedule was unflyable as published the day it went out for bidding, it was proven unflyable without a doubt when awards were released and most of the month had negative reserve numbers (many more lines scheduled than line holders plus reserves combined even before trading and schedule shuffling began), and in hindsight it was a huge mistake to not preemptively take that to a judge the next day because it was the beginning of a huge setup. Don't accept a status quo violation during bargaining! Take it to a judge and get a TRO every single time the company makes a change, especially if it's something that could possibly cause cancellations that they can turn around and blame on the pilot group.
#2142
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Joined APC: Feb 2018
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Yup. It’s a company work action. It costs them a little in the short run but pays off big in the long.
Does Biffle walk around the GO singing “Summer of Love”? Therapysession, is Biffle laughing at the water cooler? The company needs a TRO. I’d like to see ALPA file one on our behalf.
Does Biffle walk around the GO singing “Summer of Love”? Therapysession, is Biffle laughing at the water cooler? The company needs a TRO. I’d like to see ALPA file one on our behalf.
#2143
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
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Who is making up all this B.S. regarding sick-outs and intentional slowdowns. Isn't it obvious that people woukd rather work an incentiviced trip and drop their crappy trip? I know about 90% of the pilots at Frontier. I've never heard a single pilot mention a sick-out and not one person has seen this so called "list of people picking up open time." I hope we find evidence this is coming from management (as every pilot I talked to suggests). Then we can file a permanent restraining order and hopefully we can hold the management person legally accountable. To the management trolls on here, falsifying records is a criminal offense. Stop it!
#2144
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Who is making up all this B.S. regarding sick-outs and intentional slowdowns. Isn't it obvious that people woukd rather work an incentiviced trip and drop their crappy trip? I know about 90% of the pilots at Frontier. I've never heard a single pilot mention a sick-out and not one person has seen this so called "list of people picking up open time." I hope we find evidence this is coming from management (as every pilot I talked to suggests). Then we can file a permanent restraining order and hopefully we can hold the management person legally accountable. To the management trolls on here, falsifying records is a criminal offense. Stop it!
https://www.reuters.com/article/berkshire-hatha-netjets-lawsuit/pilots-sue-buffetts-netjets-over-labor-privacy-idUSL2N0TN2CU20141203
#2145
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
Position: Bus CA
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#2146
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Joined APC: Oct 2016
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It's to bad the OPERATIONAL MELTDOWN warning on the ALPA FastRead couldn't be played by the NATIONAL media......
Frankie and indigo are metaphorically Thelma and Louise heading for the cliff and picking up speed....hold on girls
Frankie and indigo are metaphorically Thelma and Louise heading for the cliff and picking up speed....hold on girls
#2148
#2149
OK - just saw it. These people cannot BUY a clue, and this is clearly petty, childish retaliation for LOA 65. I do wonder when they are going to grow up.
#2150
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 491
I’d expect a little pushback from ALPA. I don’t know how this cannot be considered a violation of status quo. I can’t remember a time in over 14 years where they’ve cancelled vacations.
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