Frontier Negotiations Discussion
#191
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#192
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I agree. The company continuously showing up unprepared and not agreeing to anything just seems to be accelerating our path to self help. I believe that had the company shown up prepared and actually engaged in negotiations, they could have delayed our new contract significantly. However, they have made this whole process go much faster. I believe the companies approach to negotiations will backfire on them, and we will be looking at self help and a new contract around the end of the year.
#193
I think we'll be okay, that's probably not causing some GO shattering revelation.
#195
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Call the committee members, MEC reps and learn the process, learn the NMB's role, and get an update before spewing some opinion. That's it.
#196
This has nothing to do with the GO. They have all of this info. The point is not posting uninformed opinions on this forum. "we will be looking at self help and a new contract around the end of the year" is just that. People read this and it creates "rumors" and makes the committee's job harder. Posts like that are the reason the internal site was shut down.
Call the committee members, MEC reps and learn the process, learn the NMB's role, and get an update before spewing some opinion. That's it.
Call the committee members, MEC reps and learn the process, learn the NMB's role, and get an update before spewing some opinion. That's it.
#197
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Position: 1900D CA
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This has nothing to do with the GO. They have all of this info. The point is not posting uninformed opinions on this forum. "we will be looking at self help and a new contract around the end of the year" is just that. People read this and it creates "rumors" and makes the committee's job harder.
I will try harder to not let my opinions come across as facts, and not place any hard expectations on the NC. I am however pretty well informed, I attend meetings, I have talked to guys on the NC and I do know the RLA process.
#198
This has nothing to do with the GO. They have all of this info. The point is not posting uninformed opinions on this forum. "we will be looking at self help and a new contract around the end of the year" is just that. People read this and it creates "rumors" and makes the committee's job harder. Posts like that are the reason the internal site was shut down.
Call the committee members, MEC reps and learn the process, learn the NMB's role, and get an update before spewing some opinion. That's it.
Call the committee members, MEC reps and learn the process, learn the NMB's role, and get an update before spewing some opinion. That's it.
#200
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I understand your point. I probably shouldn't have said that. However, I did say "I believe" which to me is a disclaimer of my best guess and not a statement of fact. I certainly don't want to place unreasonable expectations on the NC, nor start a rumor. My point was simply that the company stonewalled these negotiations to a point that i think has accelerated the process. I don't know if we will really be released to self help by the end of the year, and I shouldn't have even suggested it. Some steps of the process have gone very quickly though. We got assigned a mediator very quickly and he seems to be pushing for a quick conclusion to the process. That's all I was trying to say.
I will try harder to not let my opinions come across as facts, and not place any hard expectations on the NC. I am however pretty well informed, I attend meetings, I have talked to guys on the NC and I do know the RLA process.
I will try harder to not let my opinions come across as facts, and not place any hard expectations on the NC. I am however pretty well informed, I attend meetings, I have talked to guys on the NC and I do know the RLA process.
Well AERO..I hope that your time line is correct. I hope after my time here, we do see what this group deserves. It's frustrating, but after the email, you may very well be correct. If you are, I will owe you a drink...or many. I look forward to that!!
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