Frontier Negotiations Discussion
04-18-2017, 02:36 PM
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Also keep in mind - The stalling of growth, vacancy bids cancelled and upgrades stopped are nothing more than management creating a bargaining position. The growth of the airline is going to be a bargaining chip. All aircraft deliveries and future growth are going to be put on the shoulders of the pilot group accepting the status quo.
There is no merger. There is no buyout and there is most likely not going to be an IPO. Do not fall for it. If the airline stays "as is" it will fail. If you aren't growing - you are dying. These venture capitalist are in the business to grow. Future aircraft deliveries will come whether the pilots fly them for current rates or United/Delta rates.
There is no merger. There is no buyout and there is most likely not going to be an IPO. Do not fall for it. If the airline stays "as is" it will fail. If you aren't growing - you are dying. These venture capitalist are in the business to grow. Future aircraft deliveries will come whether the pilots fly them for current rates or United/Delta rates.
Well said. I totally agree. But we have plenty that will.
I also agree with Clearcreek and Aero1900. Ain't no way it's going to happen this year.
04-19-2017, 01:43 AM
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Also keep in mind - The stalling of growth, vacancy bids cancelled and upgrades stopped are nothing more than management creating a bargaining position. The growth of the airline is going to be a bargaining chip. All aircraft deliveries and future growth are going to be put on the shoulders of the pilot group accepting the status quo.
There is no merger. There is no buyout and there is most likely not going to be an IPO. Do not fall for it. If the airline stays "as is" it will fail. If you aren't growing - you are dying. These venture capitalist are in the business to grow. Future aircraft deliveries will come whether the pilots fly them for current rates or United/Delta rates.
There is no merger. There is no buyout and there is most likely not going to be an IPO. Do not fall for it. If the airline stays "as is" it will fail. If you aren't growing - you are dying. These venture capitalist are in the business to grow. Future aircraft deliveries will come whether the pilots fly them for current rates or United/Delta rates.
IPO submissions analysis shows labor is currently in the ballpark of 21% of casm, management bonuses exceed total pilot payroll, and you see them choking growth as a bargaining chip? Talk about cutting off your nose....
You then conclude by saying companies grow or die, and planes are coming regardless!?
Which is it, Warren B?
Listen guys, regardless of how long this takes, it's easier to throw stones from the sidelines at the guys doing the work than getting your feet wet. How about getting involved instead of letting management know you fully expect this to drag out ala UPS et all?
This rhetoric multiplied BECOMES status quo...not cool.
04-19-2017, 01:40 PM
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Tim Canoll said today that one of the three has left for another position in the government. The remaining two are left-leaning, and last time a change of power took place, it was around May before they were replaced.
04-19-2017, 05:42 PM
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I think this LOA67 arbitration is going to be important to our group, it may not be a home run, but I think it will be an RBI (Run batter in) for our section 6 negotiations. How's that for an analogy?
04-20-2017, 01:21 PM
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