Frontier Negotiations Discussion
03-19-2018, 06:12 PM
#1251
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: Swing that gear
Posts: 354
Just curious, who are you directing that at? You do understand how the process works, right? We don’t “get released” we request a proffer and the NMB makes the ultimate decision. Until the NMB decides to proffer the case, we keep meeting and making progress where we can.
Continuing to scream “RELEASE US!!!” like a petulant child does nothing to move the process forward. Maybe the usual suspects on here and facebook could stop *****ing and moaning, get off their asses and volunteer. The MEC continues to beg for volunteers, but you’d rather sit here in the cheap seats and play Monday morning QB. If you have it all figured out, why don’t you reach out to the NMB and get us released, since it is just that easy.
Continuing to scream “RELEASE US!!!” like a petulant child does nothing to move the process forward. Maybe the usual suspects on here and facebook could stop *****ing and moaning, get off their asses and volunteer. The MEC continues to beg for volunteers, but you’d rather sit here in the cheap seats and play Monday morning QB. If you have it all figured out, why don’t you reach out to the NMB and get us released, since it is just that easy.
Takes the same amount of energy to call a rep as it does to post on here but people would rather raise their BP than understand the game.
03-19-2018, 07:00 PM
#1253
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 617
03-19-2018, 07:12 PM
#1254
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2013
Position: CRJ-200 CA
Posts: 434
I sent, not one, but two emails to our union to volunteer for six different positions and I didn’t hear a word... not even a thank you for your interest email...
03-19-2018, 07:28 PM
#1255
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 50
Just curious, who are you directing that at? You do understand how the process works, right? We don’t “get released” we request a proffer and the NMB makes the ultimate decision. Until the NMB decides to proffer the case, we keep meeting and making progress where we can.
Continuing to scream “RELEASE US!!!” like a petulant child does nothing to move the process forward. Maybe the usual suspects on here and facebook could stop *****ing and moaning, get off their asses and volunteer. The MEC continues to beg for volunteers, but you’d rather sit here in the cheap seats and play Monday morning QB. If you have it all figured out, why don’t you reach out to the NMB and get us released, since it is just that easy.
Continuing to scream “RELEASE US!!!” like a petulant child does nothing to move the process forward. Maybe the usual suspects on here and facebook could stop *****ing and moaning, get off their asses and volunteer. The MEC continues to beg for volunteers, but you’d rather sit here in the cheap seats and play Monday morning QB. If you have it all figured out, why don’t you reach out to the NMB and get us released, since it is just that easy.
It’s more of a sarcastic and petty cry since it’s clear nobody is listening and it won’t make a difference, even if it’s what many of us want in order to conclude our negotiations. Would you be happier if I said “PROFFER OUR CASE FOR ARBITRATION”?
03-20-2018, 02:49 AM
#1256
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 443
I’m happy to see NMB request all those necessary for completion to show up. I’m also happy to read ALPA will request proffer if the company doesn’t show up or stalls.
Requesting proffer is a very strategic event. You only get one good shot at it. Request proffer too early and you shoot yourself in the foot. It appears to me in the private conversations ALPA had with the NMB, the Board is receptive for us to request proffer. The end is finally arriving.
Requesting proffer is a very strategic event. You only get one good shot at it. Request proffer too early and you shoot yourself in the foot. It appears to me in the private conversations ALPA had with the NMB, the Board is receptive for us to request proffer. The end is finally arriving.
03-20-2018, 07:49 AM
#1257
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 550
I’m happy to see NMB request all those necessary for completion to show up. I’m also happy to read ALPA will request proffer if the company doesn’t show up or stalls.
Requesting proffer is a very strategic event. You only get one good shot at it. Request proffer too early and you shoot yourself in the foot. It appears to me in the private conversations ALPA had with the NMB, the Board is receptive for us to request proffer. The end is finally arriving.
Requesting proffer is a very strategic event. You only get one good shot at it. Request proffer too early and you shoot yourself in the foot. It appears to me in the private conversations ALPA had with the NMB, the Board is receptive for us to request proffer. The end is finally arriving.
03-20-2018, 08:56 AM
#1258
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 147
I’m happy to see NMB request all those necessary for completion to show up. I’m also happy to read ALPA will request proffer if the company doesn’t show up or stalls.
Requesting proffer is a very strategic event. You only get one good shot at it. Request proffer too early and you shoot yourself in the foot. It appears to me in the private conversations ALPA had with the NMB, the Board is receptive for us to request proffer. The end is finally arriving.
Requesting proffer is a very strategic event. You only get one good shot at it. Request proffer too early and you shoot yourself in the foot. It appears to me in the private conversations ALPA had with the NMB, the Board is receptive for us to request proffer. The end is finally arriving.
Everyone would do well to keep quiet and let the negotiators do their jobs.
03-20-2018, 09:15 AM
#1259
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2016
Posts: 331
I’m happy to see NMB request all those necessary for completion to show up. I’m also happy to read ALPA will request proffer if the company doesn’t show up or stalls.
Requesting proffer is a very strategic event. You only get one good shot at it. Request proffer too early and you shoot yourself in the foot. It appears to me in the private conversations ALPA had with the NMB, the Board is receptive for us to request proffer. The end is finally arriving.
Requesting proffer is a very strategic event. You only get one good shot at it. Request proffer too early and you shoot yourself in the foot. It appears to me in the private conversations ALPA had with the NMB, the Board is receptive for us to request proffer. The end is finally arriving.
Also, is requesting proffer basically asking the NMB to offer binding arbitration to both sides? Wouldn't the NMB think the union would just automatically reject binding arbitration to get to the 30 day cooling off period? Could that be why its taking this long?
03-20-2018, 09:39 AM
#1260
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 617
As I understand, the NMB has to offer binding arbitration and if one side refuses, it goes to the 30 day cooling off period. Is that the release being discussed?
Also, is requesting proffer basically asking the NMB to offer binding arbitration to both sides? Wouldn't the NMB think the union would just automatically reject binding arbitration to get to the 30 day cooling off period? Could that be why its taking this long?
Also, is requesting proffer basically asking the NMB to offer binding arbitration to both sides? Wouldn't the NMB think the union would just automatically reject binding arbitration to get to the 30 day cooling off period? Could that be why its taking this long?
Thank you for educating yourself, seriously. It would be nice if more pilots would do that.
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