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Old 03-18-2018, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PulledBreaker
Any more details?
The union will announce that an AIP was reached on April 20th. Full details of the AIP will not be immediately available, but will trickle out until the actual document is finally released on approximately April 27th. Voting will close sometime mid-May.

The agreement will be marginal, but the sales job will be epic. The contract will pass with a 75/25 margin.

New pay rates will be effective on the June 5 paycheck. Any positive changes to work rules will be implemented “as soon as practical” [or never—see open time live and automated trip-splitting, circa 2007). Bad stuff will be implemented immediately.

5 year agreement with 3 years of contentious negotiations to follow that will effectively mean we’ll be 10% under the market to start and 3 contract cycles behind the market before we vote on our next TA in 2015.

Other than that, my crystal ball is a bit murky.
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Old 03-18-2018, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Southerndog
Progress was made, expect Final session mid April. I know it sounds like a broken record.
So you’re saying we will have an AIP, or the 30 day cooling off period starts after the April session?
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Old 03-18-2018, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Missed Appch
So you’re saying we will have an AIP, or the 30 day cooling off period starts after the April session?
Ooooooo
100% retro
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Southerndog
Progress was made
Ah ya....what did we give up now....
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by OpenClimb
The union will announce that an AIP was reached on April 20th. Full details of the AIP will not be immediately available, but will trickle out until the actual document is finally released on approximately April 27th. Voting will close sometime mid-May.

The agreement will be marginal, but the sales job will be epic. The contract will pass with a 75/25 margin.

New pay rates will be effective on the June 5 paycheck. Any positive changes to work rules will be implemented “as soon as practical” [or never—see open time live and automated trip-splitting, circa 2007). Bad stuff will be implemented immediately.

5 year agreement with 3 years of contentious negotiations to follow that will effectively mean we’ll be 10% under the market to start and 3 contract cycles behind the market before we vote on our next TA in 2015.

Other than that, my crystal ball is a bit murky.
Sounds like your crystal ball is busted if it’s telling you 2015 is 8 years in the future.
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Missed Appch
So you’re saying we will have an AIP, or the 30 day cooling off period starts after the April session?
I wish.

Both groups will present final proposals mid April. The NMB is the referee, if there is an agreement then we have a AIP. If the pilots appear in the NMB’s view unreasonable we could get iced. If the company is unreasonable we could get released.

Honestly getting released in my opinion will result in the best TA.
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DrJekyll MrHyde
Sounds like your crystal ball is busted if it’s telling you 2015 is 8 years in the future.
Sorry about that. I’m obviously delirious with fatigue from our multiple leg redeye flying followed by a 24 hour rest and an early east coast van time.
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Old 03-18-2018, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Southerndog
I wish.

Both groups will present final proposals mid April. The NMB is the referee, if there is an agreement then we have a AIP. If the pilots appear in the NMB’s view unreasonable we could get iced. If the company is unreasonable we could get released.

Honestly getting released in my opinion will result in the best TA.
If this is even close to being true, the company better come correct to that meeting, because our original offer wasn’t unreasonable.
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Old 03-18-2018, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by OpenClimb
The union will announce that an AIP was reached on April 20th. Full details of the AIP will not be immediately available, but will trickle out until the actual document is finally released on approximately April 27th. Voting will close sometime mid-May.

The agreement will be marginal, but the sales job will be epic. The contract will pass with a 75/25 margin.

New pay rates will be effective on the June 5 paycheck. Any positive changes to work rules will be implemented “as soon as practical” [or never—see open time live and automated trip-splitting, circa 2007). Bad stuff will be implemented immediately.

5 year agreement with 3 years of contentious negotiations to follow that will effectively mean we’ll be 10% under the market to start and 3 contract cycles behind the market before we vote on our next TA in 2015.

Other than that, my crystal ball is a bit murky.
Are you just pulling stuff out of your butt or do you have a credible source?
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Old 03-18-2018, 10:11 AM
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Are you just pulling stuff out of your butt or do you have a credible source?
That first thing.
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