Frontier Negotiations Discussion
02-23-2018, 02:12 PM
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I’m still throwing rocks at that POS. No way I’m voting yes on anything that negotiates UP TO Spirits TA. That just ain’t enough. Not even close.
02-23-2018, 02:41 PM
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02-23-2018, 02:50 PM
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02-23-2018, 02:55 PM
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Isn’t reneging in previously agreed upon sections the EPITOME of bad faith bargaining? This on top of LOA67...if there is a shred of justice among the NMB surely this would call for a release. Unfortunately, as someone mentioned earlier, politics trumps justice as usual. I guess we should put the order in for “contract 2019” lanyards
02-23-2018, 03:48 PM
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I agree. Look at the Spirit vote. They’re making a HUGE concession with PBS and are still $30/hr short of industry standard pay AND falling short on the 401k AND giving up some screwball provision that effectively turns even lineholders into airport ready reserves...
AND I bet their TA passes by at least 80/20.
Never underestimate the shortsightedness of a pilot group.
I expect the same general outcome here at Frontier. A sup-par TA followed by heavy rationalization and an ALPA sales job leading to passage of an industry trailing 5 year contract that will once-again be followed by 3 or more years of negotiations leading to another industry-trailing CBA. Rinse and repeat.
For the inevitable “why don’t you just quit?” retort. Believe me: I consider it almost every day I leave work. The truth is that at my age, I’m stuck at F9 if I’m going to continue life as a 121 pilot. The truth is that I frequently consider selling most everything I own so I can abandon this ongoing dumpster fire and make ends meet as a worker bee at Home Depot. It may happen at some point. In more than 30 years worth of jobs, I’ve never been so disgusted with a job and dreaded going to work more than this period of my life.
AND I bet their TA passes by at least 80/20.
Never underestimate the shortsightedness of a pilot group.
I expect the same general outcome here at Frontier. A sup-par TA followed by heavy rationalization and an ALPA sales job leading to passage of an industry trailing 5 year contract that will once-again be followed by 3 or more years of negotiations leading to another industry-trailing CBA. Rinse and repeat.
For the inevitable “why don’t you just quit?” retort. Believe me: I consider it almost every day I leave work. The truth is that at my age, I’m stuck at F9 if I’m going to continue life as a 121 pilot. The truth is that I frequently consider selling most everything I own so I can abandon this ongoing dumpster fire and make ends meet as a worker bee at Home Depot. It may happen at some point. In more than 30 years worth of jobs, I’ve never been so disgusted with a job and dreaded going to work more than this period of my life.
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