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08-02-2016, 07:20 AM
#2012
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Joined APC: Apr 2010
Posts: 28
We've had several regional FO's transition over as direct entry captains. Usually they'll hire directly into left seat when there isn't anyone else eligible for upgrade.
The schedule is dynamic and ever changing. 10 days on with 5 off. This time of year with our current crewing capabilities and flight activity most of us are working all 10. Not every duty day is the same though. Some are multiple legs flown with 14 duty hours and others are single leg then go to the hotel.
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08-02-2016, 04:27 PM
#2013
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Joined APC: Aug 2010
Position: The Dark Side
Posts: 99
jellies described the schedule perfectly. There is no "typical" day in fractional flying, at least not at this company. It also very much depends what aircraft you end up on, as different aircraft usually end up doing different types of missions. The CJs and 300s do a lot of longer/farther trips, so once you're out on rotation, you're usually OUT. On the 100, you will fly a lot, but there are more day trips that end up back at base, so you can luck into getting to sleep in your own bed more often. Pros and cons to both - I wouldn't say one is better than the other, just different.
08-02-2016, 05:25 PM
#2014
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Position: ERJ
Posts: 383
I was a regional FO and hired at EAS as a street captain, so it does happen.
jellies described the schedule perfectly. There is no "typical" day in fractional flying, at least not at this company. It also very much depends what aircraft you end up on, as different aircraft usually end up doing different types of missions. The CJs and 300s do a lot of longer/farther trips, so once you're out on rotation, you're usually OUT. On the 100, you will fly a lot, but there are more day trips that end up back at base, so you can luck into getting to sleep in your own bed more often. Pros and cons to both - I wouldn't say one is better than the other, just different.
jellies described the schedule perfectly. There is no "typical" day in fractional flying, at least not at this company. It also very much depends what aircraft you end up on, as different aircraft usually end up doing different types of missions. The CJs and 300s do a lot of longer/farther trips, so once you're out on rotation, you're usually OUT. On the 100, you will fly a lot, but there are more day trips that end up back at base, so you can luck into getting to sleep in your own bed more often. Pros and cons to both - I wouldn't say one is better than the other, just different.
08-18-2016, 01:07 PM
#2017
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 3
Ok, so I'm new to the forums but have read through almost all this thread.
Would someone care to share more about these schedules? 20 in a row? Are there such things as turns or 2, 3 or 4 day trips?
I get QOL is bad, but I would appreciate it if someone would please elaborate on the schedules in particular. Thanks
Would someone care to share more about these schedules? 20 in a row? Are there such things as turns or 2, 3 or 4 day trips?
I get QOL is bad, but I would appreciate it if someone would please elaborate on the schedules in particular. Thanks
08-19-2016, 06:36 AM
#2018
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: Upright
Posts: 120
Right now a lot of us are working 8,9,10 days of our 10 day rotation. I have heard from a couple people that they are going to hire 25 pilots asap. If thats the case, once those pilots get online it will reduce our actual days we work. Hopefully we will work 6 or 7 out of 10. This rotation I have worked 9 out of 10 but only 2 overnights the rest day trip home with the family overnight.
08-19-2016, 06:36 AM
#2019
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Joined APC: Apr 2010
Posts: 28
QOL is terrible here.
This past rotation I worked 8 out of 10 and was away from home for 6 nights. I spent last weekend in Aspen driving a 4x4 Jeep on off-road trails with the top and doors off.
The previous rotation I worked 9 out of 10 with 2 nights in Appleton, WI which netted a full day at Oshkosh.
Next month I'm taking my wife to Vermont for the weekend using Southwest, Hertz, and Marriott points. Total trip cost roughly $25 + food and gas. The hotel/airline/rental points add up. We don't have jump seat privileges but you will rack up a hefty amount of Southwest points and status.
To elaborate on the schedule in particular, it's a gamble. You can get lucky and have some awesome trips and have a great time on the road or you can get stuck in Midland, TX. There is no "trip" designs that get you back home after "x" amount of days. Your 10 days on means you could be used all 10 and gone from home all 10. The longest stretch gone from home I've had recently is 6.
All that being said, we are very short on pilots right now. Everyone is working A LOT so QOL & morale is down. I've heard we will be hiring 25 pilots to fill the vacancies and hard day off pay is going up to $700/day in order to get people to work their off days.
This past rotation I worked 8 out of 10 and was away from home for 6 nights. I spent last weekend in Aspen driving a 4x4 Jeep on off-road trails with the top and doors off.
The previous rotation I worked 9 out of 10 with 2 nights in Appleton, WI which netted a full day at Oshkosh.
Next month I'm taking my wife to Vermont for the weekend using Southwest, Hertz, and Marriott points. Total trip cost roughly $25 + food and gas. The hotel/airline/rental points add up. We don't have jump seat privileges but you will rack up a hefty amount of Southwest points and status.
To elaborate on the schedule in particular, it's a gamble. You can get lucky and have some awesome trips and have a great time on the road or you can get stuck in Midland, TX. There is no "trip" designs that get you back home after "x" amount of days. Your 10 days on means you could be used all 10 and gone from home all 10. The longest stretch gone from home I've had recently is 6.
All that being said, we are very short on pilots right now. Everyone is working A LOT so QOL & morale is down. I've heard we will be hiring 25 pilots to fill the vacancies and hard day off pay is going up to $700/day in order to get people to work their off days.
08-19-2016, 07:31 AM
#2020
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: SA-227, B-727, A-300, DC-8, all seats
Posts: 59
The website update question - error messages
Hello.....................
Just like posting #2031, I also have been trying to make an update on the application website and keep getting error messages. Everything is properly filled in, no misspellings, omissions and everything is in the correct format.
What give guys ?? I exceed all the employment requirements and still no reply.
What is going on ??
Please fly safe and have a fun Labor Day upcoming.
Wright cyclones - - -the sound of freedom !!!!!
Just like posting #2031, I also have been trying to make an update on the application website and keep getting error messages. Everything is properly filled in, no misspellings, omissions and everything is in the correct format.
What give guys ?? I exceed all the employment requirements and still no reply.
What is going on ??
Please fly safe and have a fun Labor Day upcoming.
Wright cyclones - - -the sound of freedom !!!!!
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