tiredcfi

All of the places you listed have a seniority-based upgrade system. (You used to work for an airline.) When your number gets called, you upgrade. It makes sense to seat lock at a place like that to curb training costs on switching from one airframe to another since you wont be upgrading anytime soon at any of those shops.

On the other hand, we arbitrarily hire off the street even though there are qualified SICs working hard, doing a good job for the company. I'm really not sure why anyone at the office is concerned about training costs associated with upgrading a qualified SIC within a year when they can barely keep anyone around for much longer than that! People will begin to see the policy differently when the company stops hiring street captains! To be able to compare this place to those listed above (on this subject), we would have to hire only SICs off the street and upgrade them from there.

Again, I have no ill will towards anyone on here. Please, however, at least attempt to look at this from the prospective of those that are regularly getting screwed due to bad policy.

We need a beer emoticon on here.

bgmann

EASpilot, curious if you've ever worked for a regional airline or laid off before?

mojo6911

Imo, you aren't being screwed if you knew the policy and accepted it. When I interviewed, they were very clear that there is a minimum 1 year upgrade and it's merit based.

RI830

You weren't looking very hard then. I spent many a nights in those thriving metropoli. You are very quick to fling poo at me when you obviously have not a clue to what I have done for you and the rest of the pilot group.

2-3 yrs is my guess, how long have you been with EAS?

AviatorBakeek

Anyone know how to get that popcorn eating smilie?

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I know the seat lock wasn't made clear to myself and another guy...in fact, i think we both made it clear we had every intention of upgrading ASAP. I couldn't have upgraded to anything until a few months ago and I am upgrading in a month so its a mute point and so is the other guy. I can't say its not coming without some sacrifice but lifes a journey and ICT is our next stop.

Where you based out of RI? I was out at DAB for a full day last week.

RI830

Congrats on the upgrade!! Enjoy the left seat and the extra coins!!

I am based out of KTMB. South Miami or aka Northern Cuba

AviatorBakeek

I need the coins.

MiGBoy

It's remarkable to me how emotional certain individuals become over the "problems" they think they have in their lives. Sometimes, I think we all need to have our prospective seriously adjusted in order to be thankful for all that we have at our job(s), and in life.

We don't have problems, gentlemen. People with problems presented to them are men like our soldiers overseas getting their heads splattered down the sides of mountains, never to see their wives and children again. Attacked and ruthlessly killed by individuals in this world who truly hate and resent us as Americans. I think that clearly defines a "problem."

All for us. All for you.

A 12/3 schedule makes you work hard and manage your life. No one is shooting at you. Hot food is provided to you. When you turn on the faucet, water that you can drink always comes out. You almost always have enough cell phone reception to check in with your family and tell them how lucky you are to have them.

All the while, your in America. Your an American, and your sounded by this safety net that virtually no other place in the world can provide you.

Since your thinking it already, yes, I did see that movie last night. If the goal of the filmmakers was to change one person's life and help them to gain an even better prospective on the blessing of their lives, then they succeeded with me. When it was over, the whole theater was completely silent as everyone left. As I drove home last night, I realized, not a single one of you (us) has it bad at all. We are all lucky to fly great airplanes with great people, and make a living doing it. I'll bet you 100% of the men and women being shot at overseas would give absolutely anything to be in our shoes.

And if your truly convinced that you have it bad, then lucky for you, your in the home of the free and the land of the brave.

Make a choice.

KingAirDriver

Have you read the book? I'll bet you 100% of those men in the operation would have wanted to be there. That, our Country, is what they lived for and believed in more than anything. True patriots, heroes every one of them. For as long a Mr. Luttrell has been alive, that's what he'd always wanted to be and do- a SEAL. While I understand what you're trying to say, I don't think it would be right for anyone, including you and me, to say what they'd rather be doing or where they'd rather be. Let's not take that away from them.

MiGBoy

You understand my point, and I understand yours. You are most correct.

As for the book, It was ordered prior to breakfast this morning.