Good grades a bad thing at NJA?
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Highly doubt that had anything to do with it. However I would say if I person got straight A's, had no check ride failures, and no speeding tickets - then I would think something is up with them. (can't think of the term I'm looking for there)
More than likely the interviewers didn't like something about him. Or the interview didn't go as well as he though.
More than likely the interviewers didn't like something about him. Or the interview didn't go as well as he though.
But honestly, you'd never know it from meeting me. I don't talk down to people. I don't come off as a nerd, I'm athletic and very personable and social. I'm just waiting to get a NJA interview and finding out what this guy had to say about his good grades being frowned upon made me a little uneasy.
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I believe "fishy" would suffice.
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If I'm not mistaken, a company would never give you any info regarding the interview, good or bad. All you can do is try again. An applicant should have a general idea of what went wrong, or what didn't go as well as the rest.
#16
No,
In any interview, HR and fellow interview pilots will do a BS check. I call it the "I don't know, I need to look that up" question. If you get very detailed questions on the fuel system, etc. Some will try to bluff their way through. Get the "I'm not sure" out early. <g> Bluffing can kill an interview. And then no matter your grades, they know you are humble, teachable, and desirable on the team. My .02.
In any interview, HR and fellow interview pilots will do a BS check. I call it the "I don't know, I need to look that up" question. If you get very detailed questions on the fuel system, etc. Some will try to bluff their way through. Get the "I'm not sure" out early. <g> Bluffing can kill an interview. And then no matter your grades, they know you are humble, teachable, and desirable on the team. My .02.
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Who knows? It's no secret, NJ is becoming MORE and MORE of a competitive job.
Maybe it wasn't a matter of the guy doing anything wrong. Maybe he did everything right, and they liked him. But they just like somebody else more.
How many times did you ever fly with a guy that got turned down at SouthWest and you wondered why? Good guy, great to fly with, knows his stuff, good people person, thought the interview went well, etc.
When a certain place is a good one to be at, they ALWAYS have a lot of good guys interviewing, and sadly sometimes, they can't hire EVERY single one.
Maybe it wasn't a matter of the guy doing anything wrong. Maybe he did everything right, and they liked him. But they just like somebody else more.
How many times did you ever fly with a guy that got turned down at SouthWest and you wondered why? Good guy, great to fly with, knows his stuff, good people person, thought the interview went well, etc.
When a certain place is a good one to be at, they ALWAYS have a lot of good guys interviewing, and sadly sometimes, they can't hire EVERY single one.
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It just sounds a little overboard to make sure that your college GPA is noted on your resume.
I just dont see the point of the GPA on a resume. It has nothing to do with aviation. So your really smart. So are most of us in the field (I like to think). I wont put my penis length on the resume because it has nothing to do with how I fly an airplane (although it might be impressive). If I am looking to hire a physicist, then I want to know his GPA. I know my example was a little crude, but I am just trying to stress my point.
To put your GPA on your aviation resume might be a little obtuse.
Thats why they ask, "Have you failed any checkrides?" No, well then you have a 4.0 GPA in something that matters to us.
dig?
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I just dont see the point of the GPA on a resume. It has nothing to do with aviation. So your really smart. So are most of us in the field (I like to think). I wont put my penis length on the resume because it has nothing to do with how I fly an airplane (although it might be impressive). If I am looking to hire a physicist, then I want to know his GPA. I know my example was a little crude, but I am just trying to stress my point.
To put your GPA on your aviation resume might be a little obtuse.
Thats why they ask, "Have you failed any checkrides?" No, well then you have a 4.0 GPA in something that matters to us.
dig?
X
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It just sounds a little overboard to make sure that your college GPA is noted on your resume.
I just dont see the point of the GPA on a resume. It has nothing to do with aviation. So your really smart. So are most of us in the field (I like to think). I wont put my penis length on the resume because it has nothing to do with how I fly an airplane (although it might be impressive). If I am looking to hire a physicist, then I want to know his GPA. I know my example was a little crude, but I am just trying to stress my point.
To put your GPA on your aviation resume might be a little obtuse.
Thats why they ask, "Have you failed any checkrides?" No, well then you have a 4.0 GPA in something that matters to us.
dig?
X
I just dont see the point of the GPA on a resume. It has nothing to do with aviation. So your really smart. So are most of us in the field (I like to think). I wont put my penis length on the resume because it has nothing to do with how I fly an airplane (although it might be impressive). If I am looking to hire a physicist, then I want to know his GPA. I know my example was a little crude, but I am just trying to stress my point.
To put your GPA on your aviation resume might be a little obtuse.
Thats why they ask, "Have you failed any checkrides?" No, well then you have a 4.0 GPA in something that matters to us.
dig?
X
All it is is a way to accentuate something about you on your resume. It might catch the eye of one HR person, another may just simply dismiss it without any thoughts either way.
Also, what if they guy never failed a check ride, but needed additional OE but that question is never asked? Does that still merit him a "4.0 in something that matters to us". What if the guy went through an AQP program and never "failed" a checkride but required additional training. It's not a pink slip, would that still warrant a "4.0 in something that matters to us"?. What if guy failed a ground school test (yes, it happens) and had to take it AGAIN? No pink slip, it's not a failed check ride, does that warrant a "4.0 in something that matters to us"? What if a guy screwed something up and got some time off for it, but the question was never asked whether he has been suspended or disciplined, does that warrant a "4.0 in something that matters to us"?
"dig"?
And NO, we don't need to have that old, stale, worn out multi page thread about whether or not college makes you a better pilot or not.
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