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Old 11-24-2007, 11:54 AM
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True, But I wonder how much the number would be increased when you account for NJ flights that are contract out when they are out of Planes and Crew.

On either end of this if they have 75% of the business or not, the cool thing for us pilots is not market share of our company, but our life and usage at the company. Since NJ has a larger share of pilots than planes in the whole fractional scheme, that means we would theoretically work less, i.e. get a better schedule and not be worked to fatigue on the 7 day tour.
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Originally Posted by Navajo31
Using the numbers on this forum, and considering only the Big Four in the fractional industry (QS, CS, FX, FLOPS), there are 721 aircraft.
The numbers on this sight are not accurate. Using FAA data, there are approx 800 US based frax aircraft. Almost 500 of them are NetJets.

"I believe our market share shows that we're on the right track," he says. "We have something north of 50 percent of the market, looking at the four major fractionals — us; FlexJet; CitationShares; and Flight Options. If you look at dollar sales, NetJets has in excess of 75 percent of the market."
http://www.airportbusiness.com/print...Growth/1$10767
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Old 11-24-2007, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KiloAlphaPapa
the cool thing for us pilots is not market share of our company, but our life and usage at the company.

Absolutely! And no matter which fractional you work for, you are a lot better off than the best of the regionals!!!
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:10 AM
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Does market share affect my QOL on a day-to-day basis? No, probably not.

Does it affect my long-term QOL? Absolutely!

I would never have applied at a company without a strong financial future. I want to upgrade to captain in a reasonable period of time. Until senior pilots start retiring in droves, the only way for that to happen is through growth. The best predictor of growth, for me at least, was the trend in market share and number of cockpits. And during pilot contract negotiations, company profits, both current and projected, are obviously key to what you can expect to gain or lose.

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Old 11-27-2007, 07:48 AM
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I am a FO at Colgan and would really like to get into the 135 world. I love my job but I need more and with 1200 TT, 550 multi (450 of which is turbine), I am not too marketable. I am considering going over to Cape Air to get some more hours because Colgan took our lines and went reserve with them for the next 1.5 months, and the QOL hasn't been great lately. I have a family and need to provide for them and it seems like the fractionals are much more employee friendly however, the 7 day schedule could be tough. Do the fractionals want turbine time? Or would multi time work just as well?
I'de go Cape air if i were you. I think you said you lived south of Boston right? Cape pays Duty time not flight time so right off the bat you'll be making more money than some Colgan CA's. I think Capt Sac explained this to me a while back. You'll get some real world pic and build quality multi time. when you reach 2500TT, go Frac.
If the New Netjet TA goes through, you'll have 3-4 bases (BOS, PVD, BED and PWM) within 60 minutes.

And there's always instructing.... O'll Jack C. is always looking for somone to fly with.
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:11 AM
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So 2500TT seems to be the going rate of entry to the fractionals based on what I've seen. I'm not quite there.

I've got almost 2000 hours and over 1000 multi turbine (sic) is anyone getting on with hours like that?
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So 2500TT seems to be the going rate of entry to the fractionals based on what I've seen. I'm not quite there.

I've got almost 2000 hours and over 1000 multi turbine (sic) is anyone getting on with hours like that?
If you do not meet the mins...you will not get a call. Those are hard mins...no exceptions.
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Old 01-29-2008, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by fastmulti
So 2500TT seems to be the going rate of entry to the fractionals based on what I've seen. I'm not quite there.

I've got almost 2000 hours and over 1000 multi turbine (sic) is anyone getting on with hours like that?
I think FLOPS (Flight Options) is 1500 minimum, but lots of negative talk going on over there.
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Real World Pic?Quality PIC time? Flying the 1900 in the NE just about everywhere the 402 goes, with no autopilot. 402 pic 1900 pic, Turbine PIC will always trump piston PIC.
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Old 01-30-2008, 02:10 AM
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After Net Jets passed their new contract in December, I heard that other fractionals were thinking of boosting their pay and adding more domiciles to compete. Does anyone have any new information about this?

I think Net Jets is a great company to work for. But with their new contract, it will be a lot more difficult to get an interview now.
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