Don’t come to netjets
07-17-2023, 10:45 AM
#31
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It’s not happening at all in 2024 but if the rest of the crybabies leave with me in January you can bet it’ll be 2031.
07-17-2023, 05:36 PM
#32
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NetJets has always kinda sucked as a job. It just feels suckier when the industry around NJA is doing so well. The same goes for when the airline industry craps the bed, NJA pilots praise the amazing job they have and how amazing the company is. Scheduling runs you into fatiguing almost daily, you rarely get an awesome layover and/or enough time to enjoy the layover, and when the airline industry sees concessions is the only time NJA pays better. Don't leave NJA to chase upgrades or contracts at a particular airline. You have to be built for the NJA lifestyle. Some people are, and some people aren't. I wasn't. FDP masked a lot of issues because you can solve a lot with money. Now that the airlines are all paying top dollar, and upgrades are down, it makes NJA feel pretty behind the eightball when the honeymoon of FDP wears off and you realized they simply threw money at you to ignore the plaguing issues that have never gone away, and never will. Scheduling will always be the way it is, the dynamic nature of NJA will never change. If you love flying private jets to random places and can make the lifestyle, pay, and benefits work, then awesome.
07-17-2023, 09:45 PM
#33
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I am one of the “crybabies” that actually left NJs after being there for about a decade (including the five years I was furloughed). I realized once the 2015 contract came out that NJs would never compare to the majors, so I did something about it. I still think NJs was a fun job, but why would I settle for less pay and retirement for doing more work? It just depends on what your life goals are I guess. Now I’m a captain for Hawaiian Airlines with much better pay and QOL. To each his own…
07-20-2023, 09:03 AM
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07-20-2023, 10:29 AM
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I’ve always felt that anytime there is a training contract or bond that the company is forcing people to stay rather than hiring the right person and provide the right environment for them to want to stay.
It’s a two way street.
07-20-2023, 12:31 PM
#37
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Position: Retired NJA & AA
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NetJets is the only Fractional I'm aware of that has a Union. I don't think the company could impose a training contract without negotiation with the Union.
07-21-2023, 08:08 AM
#38
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That is correct. We had one from late Feb 2000 until 2005 when we wrote it into the CBA that it is not allowed. I highly doubt you would ever see one allowed again.
07-21-2023, 08:10 AM
#39
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No there isn’t. I think as a pilot I would honor at least a year. Let them get some money back out of that type. But lots of people leave for different reasons.
I’ve always felt that anytime there is a training contract or bond that the company is forcing people to stay rather than hiring the right person and provide the right environment for them to want to stay.
It’s a two way street.
I’ve always felt that anytime there is a training contract or bond that the company is forcing people to stay rather than hiring the right person and provide the right environment for them to want to stay.
It’s a two way street.
07-30-2023, 11:23 AM
#40
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I dont believe our pay will ever go up to Delta/United wages. Never.
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