David Puddy

I've heard that Wheels Up has picked up quite a few PS pilots. True?

ALI G Mmmm

There is so much that could be said about PlaneSense. Yes, it has seen better days. There are a lot of inside problems here. I know the grass isn't always greener on the other side. But, there are a lot of other places you can go to get a better QOL and pay. NY GIANTS brings up a valid point. You have to bust a$$ here in order bring in six figures. 12 days of a month sucks. That's what a regional FO gets straight out training. 8 days on the road is very long. Especially when you are remote based. I have been with the company over a year and have never overnighted at my base. Now if you are PSM based this might happen more. As there are more day trips out of there. It seems like each summer at this company gets worse. Less crew meals, more legs, more driving to hotels, minimum rest, earlier shows. This is all part of the game. I understand that. This being my second summer at the company I have seen a lot change. Overnighted in BOS. They made us get a rental car and drive 45 minutes to the hotel. This is the frustrating part. After working 7 legs in the hot heat this is the last thing you want to do. Atleast at the airlines you are staying in a hotel that is close to the airport and you don't have to wait at the airport for two hours while they book you a room. Our flight operations center is full of college interns who are seeking to become ATC's some day. They do not plan anything out in advance. The schedule is constantly changing you can't plan where you are going to be. Another thing that grinds a lot of peoples gears is the whole airline situation. You finish work at 14:00 on your last day in the airlines you can jumpseat or non-rev home. At planesense it's a different story. You are spending the night in a hotel and going home the next day on a flight that isn't direct. To me it makes no since to keep a pilot that long spend $ on a hotel and pay them another day of per diam. When you can or could send them home a day early to see their family or what not.

If you are a flight instructor looking to come get real world experience and to be able to pay the bills than come on over to planesense. It's great. I have done some awesome flying with my time here, seen some cool places, and built some hotel points up. Everyone has different goals and dreams. If you want to fly 7 legs a day in a single engine airplane and be on the road for long periods of time with hopes of flying a PC-24 then stay. If you want to be a 777 Captain in 20 years than this isn't the place to be.

I think it's going to be interesting what happens down the road with this company. I wish them the best of luck but as NYGIANT says... management is stuck in a bubble. This company will always have a hard time keeping captains due to the fact that it's a single engine airplane. If we had King Air's I'm sure you would see a lot more people sticking around.

Captain's here do infact bust their a$$. 50 grand a year to be responsible for Passports, International Paperwork, Flight Planning, ordering crew meals, etc. Is not worth it to me. All said and done we are looking about an extra $225 on the paycheck after taxes.

What really drives me nuts is flying with all these captains who are absolutely clueless with current events in the industry. Apparently you can go to United or Delta now with 5,000 hours of 91K Single-Engine Turbo prop time and 50 hours of multi and no ATP. Some of these guys need to wake up or keep their mouth shut. I've got plenty of friends in the corporate world who are flying jet's for a 91 company. I am happy for them. I would never once think about opening my mouth and talking down on them because they chose to follow their dream. But at PlaneSense it seems to be a constant issue with these Captain's running their mouths on younger FO's because they decided to try something new.

underwing

I've been getting a lot of questions about ground school so I will try to lay it as best I can for everyone. Prior to the official ground school you will go through an IFR refresher course followed by an evaluation. If you make through then you'll move on to PC12 initial FO ground school. In ground school you will learn about the aircraft and avionics systems of the PC12. In addition, you will learn a lot about company operations with regard to flying in the 91k and 135 environment. After ground school you'll go to Dallas for sim training. I haven't been to the sim yet so I can't comment there. So, what should you do to prepare for training? Well if you know your IFR skills are a little weak then I'd highly recommend that you find an experienced cfii and spend some time in a sim nailing down departures, approaches, holds and arrivals. Many people have washed out in Dallas due to lack of fundamental IFR skills and knowledge.

AlexBlakeCFI

Wow! Went away for two days and this thread blew up! Lots of things to consider as I await any word on a possible interview...

Thanks for all the info guys. You've definitely got my gears turning!

Tpauly

Please post if you get a call for an interview!
I'm waiting for the same.

SilverFlying

Got the invitation for training yesterday. January 3rd class.


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magoo6541

Congratulations! That's awesome!! That time line seems long but it'll go by fast I would guess.

How have they communicated with you as far as the interview and job offer? All by phone or email or mix?

SilverFlying

Phone call. Took almost 2 weeks. After the phone call I got the email with the official invite letter.


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underwing

Congrats man! I think your class will be the first one to have 12 guys instead of 8. Welcome!

SilverFlying

Can't wait. I PM you some questions. Are you already in Sim training?


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