Netjets vs Flexjets
#31
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This is nothing more than rhetoric. If you work 18 days a month at any major right now you’ll make more than an NJA captain working the same days a month.
Hell, I’ll make more than the FO payscale goes to, including all the incentive pay, and I’ll do that on year 3 pay with 17 days off a month.
The pay argument is hilarious. The only ones at NJA making real money are management pilots extending a bunch.
Hell, I’ll make more than the FO payscale goes to, including all the incentive pay, and I’ll do that on year 3 pay with 17 days off a month.
The pay argument is hilarious. The only ones at NJA making real money are management pilots extending a bunch.
#32
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As to NJA vs Flex, one needs to decide what's important to them, learn as much as they can about each carrier, and weigh the pros and cons of each against that list of important items.
For example, one might look at a certain operator, whose pilots just voted to abandon having union protection and an enforceable pilot contract, and decide if that will be beneficial to them in the long run.
For example, one might look at a certain operator, whose pilots just voted to abandon having union protection and an enforceable pilot contract, and decide if that will be beneficial to them in the long run.
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#34
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That's great that you'll be making 200K with 17 days off per month as a year 3 FO. 1,450 credit hours is a lot to pack in to 13 days per month, so that is great to hear that so many credits flow freely. You must be so content with your decision to move on that you spend your time.......posting on threads about your former employer instead of your current company?
#35
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NO, you need to do YOUR homework.....
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Wow! That’s a helluva 5th post on APC. Congratulations on your 5th post milestone and welcome to APC. And I appreciate your passion and intensity: I couldn’t find an Emoji for Frank Burns snittyness, so I just made your response bold.... If only you were right.......
Sorry that you didn’t like the message, but I didn’t have to do any homework because I was there in the Fractional trenches in 2008-2009 and saw the carnage at Flex and XOJET firsthand. Netjets and Options had a union with a written FURLOUGH policy, while Flex did not and TERMINATED their pilots accordingly. Flexjet TERMINATED, Netjets FURLOUGHED with Seniority Longevity for Pay and Vacation rights... Like I said respectfully, please correct me if I am wrong.....
I wasn’t, and you didn’t.
Oh, and thanks for your respect to a fellow aviator, LOL. When you get that Phenom Captain award, I would hate to be the FO who had to tell you that you were 1 dot low on the glideslope...
Please correct me if I am wrong, but didn’t NetJets furlough their pilots in reverse seniority order, contractually, where Flex fired them, not necessarily by seniority, and made them re-apply for their jobs and start back at first year pay?!?!: You can tell a lot about the character of a company by the way that they treat their employees when times get tough.
You need to do your homework. For starters, after the great recession and the furloughing, two companies, Flexjet and Flight Options merged under the Flexjet name. Which company are you referring to when you say Flex fired them,
You need to do your homework. For starters, after the great recession and the furloughing, two companies, Flexjet and Flight Options merged under the Flexjet name. Which company are you referring to when you say Flex fired them,
Wow! That’s a helluva 5th post on APC. Congratulations on your 5th post milestone and welcome to APC. And I appreciate your passion and intensity: I couldn’t find an Emoji for Frank Burns snittyness, so I just made your response bold.... If only you were right.......
Sorry that you didn’t like the message, but I didn’t have to do any homework because I was there in the Fractional trenches in 2008-2009 and saw the carnage at Flex and XOJET firsthand. Netjets and Options had a union with a written FURLOUGH policy, while Flex did not and TERMINATED their pilots accordingly. Flexjet TERMINATED, Netjets FURLOUGHED with Seniority Longevity for Pay and Vacation rights... Like I said respectfully, please correct me if I am wrong.....
I wasn’t, and you didn’t.
Oh, and thanks for your respect to a fellow aviator, LOL. When you get that Phenom Captain award, I would hate to be the FO who had to tell you that you were 1 dot low on the glideslope...
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#36
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Somebody has to stop people like you from inflating NJA pay to make it look like the place to go from a salary standpoint. A comparison was made to the airlines versus NJA pay, I merely shed light on that. And please make no mistake, no airline pilot works half as hard as an NJA pilot.
"Hell, I’ll make more than the FO payscale goes to, including all the incentive pay, and I’ll do that on year 3 pay with 17 days off a month."
Your words, right?
#37
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100% WRONG.
I was a 12 year Capt at NetJets and pulled the ejection handle. Second year FO pay at UPS was 235k. More than I EVER made at NetJets.
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#38
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QOL
I'm seeing a 2 year Flex Phenom Captain gets 463 per day.
182 days worked at 463 a day - Flex Capt is 84266.
182 days 7n7 worked by a 10 year NJ sic is 102000
182 days 7n7 worked by a 10 year NJ pic is 145000
182 days 7n7 worked by a 2 year NJ sic is 67000.
What am I missing in this base pay comparison? I don't see how what you said works ?
Clearly if the two year upgrade holds... FJ would pay better than NJ with the decade or longer upgrade.
182 days worked at 463 a day - Flex Capt is 84266.
182 days 7n7 worked by a 10 year NJ sic is 102000
182 days 7n7 worked by a 10 year NJ pic is 145000
182 days 7n7 worked by a 2 year NJ sic is 67000.
What am I missing in this base pay comparison? I don't see how what you said works ?
Clearly if the two year upgrade holds... FJ would pay better than NJ with the decade or longer upgrade.
I left that place because of 13.5 hour days, airlines every trip (multiple) because they can’t keep proper staffing levels and “Red Label”. (A joke). I recently spoke to a friend who bragged about what they paid him for a day of OT then complained about How much he was working?
If you’re thinking long term go NJ. If you need to build time FJ will work. QOL is almost as important as compensation. (Just this grey haired veteran’s opinion)
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