Netjets vs Flexjets
05-04-2019, 12:07 PM
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[QUOTE=Starlifter335;2814074]
You need to do your homework as you have little idea of what happened at either company prior to your retirement.
He’s speaking of Flex furloughing after the recession, and while it was done in seniority order some individuals were not recalled or rehired though willing when the operation resumed normal staffing.
Please correct me if I am wrong, but didn’t NetJets furlough their pilots in reverse seniority order, contractually, where Flex fired them, not necessarily by seniority, and made them re-apply for their jobs and start back at first year pay?!?!
You can tell a lot about the character of a company by the way that they treat their employees when times get tough.
You need to do your homework. For starters, after the great recession and the furloughing, two companies, Flexjet and Flight Options merged under the Flexjet name. Which company are you referring to when you say Flex fired them,
You can tell a lot about the character of a company by the way that they treat their employees when times get tough.You need to do your homework. For starters, after the great recession and the furloughing, two companies, Flexjet and Flight Options merged under the Flexjet name. Which company are you referring to when you say Flex fired them,
He’s speaking of Flex furloughing after the recession, and while it was done in seniority order some individuals were not recalled or rehired though willing when the operation resumed normal staffing.
05-05-2019, 01:00 PM
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Upgrade at FJ is faster because attrition is so high. It turns out, most want to leave for either the airlines or NJ. Sadly, those long term FJ pilots are pretty much the dregs. Too bad.
05-05-2019, 01:56 PM
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05-05-2019, 04:52 PM
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The NJ union has negotiated an unbelievable pay and benefits package.
05-05-2019, 05:10 PM
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Yes, there is some attrition at NJ, but it seems to be mostly at the SIC level. It's low when compared to FJ. The problem at NetJets is, if you're a PIC going to an airline doesn't make economic sense. I know a few who had large airplane envy who left for the majors and took a huge pay hit.
The NJ union has negotiated an unbelievable pay and benefits package.
The NJ union has negotiated an unbelievable pay and benefits package.
When compared to legacy carriers, some LCCS, FedEx , or UPS ...it quickly becomes the bad kind of unbelievable.
05-05-2019, 05:39 PM
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FWIW, flying big airplanes doesn't make your junk any larger. Ask me how I know.
05-05-2019, 07:38 PM
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Yes, there is some attrition at NJ, but it seems to be mostly at the SIC level. It's low when compared to FJ. The problem at NetJets is, if you're a PIC going to an airline doesn't make economic sense. I know a few who had large airplane envy who left for the majors and took a huge pay hit.
The NJ union has negotiated an unbelievable pay and benefits package.
The NJ union has negotiated an unbelievable pay and benefits package.
Hell, I’ll make more than the FO payscale goes to, including all the incentive pay, and I’ll do that on year 3 pay with 17 days off a month.
The pay argument is hilarious. The only ones at NJA making real money are management pilots extending a bunch.
05-05-2019, 07:39 PM
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Compare it to other fractionals. You can be a captain at flex in 2 years, that’s more than a 10 year FO at NJA makes.
05-05-2019, 07:49 PM
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05-05-2019, 08:18 PM
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182 days worked at 463 a day - Flex Capt is 84266.
182 days 7n7 worked by a 10 year NJ sic is 102000
182 days 7n7 worked by a 10 year NJ pic is 145000
182 days 7n7 worked by a 2 year NJ sic is 67000.
What am I missing in this base pay comparison? I don't see how what you said works ?
Clearly if the two year upgrade holds... FJ would pay better than NJ with the decade or longer upgrade.
Last edited by wankel7; 05-05-2019 at 08:56 PM.
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