poita

With the application what do they mean by cross country time? I thought anything out of the circuit was cross country.

JetPilotMike

Well then, I hope they do the blood work and BMI the first day!

Kenny

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Originally Posted by poita

With the application what do they mean by cross country time? I thought anything out of the circuit was cross country.

Poita, taking a wild stab in the dark here but I'm guessing the fact that you called it a circuit, instead of a traffic pattern, implies you're a colonial of one sort or another.

The FAA's definition of X-Country is a take off and landing at different airports, with a straight line distance of 50nm between them. For the purposes of logging the required X-Country time for an FAA ATP, I'm pretty sure you only have to fly 50 nm away from your destination. Not sure, it's been a while since I had to think about X-C time.

Looking through the info they send out for the interview, it looks like the JCAB have another definition of X-C time. I hope I'm wrong because I'm not looking forward to going through 4 of those bloody Jepp logbooks, to work it out!

myoface

I would highly recommend putting your logbook on a computer. That way you can sort your time the way they want it quickly. If you get an interview they have you fill out a form that has various categories on it. Such as PIC Night XC. Another category is Night except PIC and Solo. Also, the times you put on this form have to match your logbook EXACTLY. It cant be off by 5 minutes! Oh, and I think that Solo time does not count toward PIC time.
Good luck
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bigfatdaddy

Guys does anyone know what they are looking for in the form of an autobiography? - already sent in my resume, but don't have an autobiography and am not sure how to begin. As a pilot I suppose we are supposed to enjoy talking about ourselves - but what kind of format/length/info are they looking for? any thoughts/shared experiences?

Thanks

Big Fat Daddy

johnnybgood

Hey guys,

Newbie here. I have an interview scheduled in Seattle next month 7/10 and medical in Anchorage on 7/13. Has anyone been thru the interview recently that might be able to add anymore insight. This board has been a great source of info and I am looking forward to taking the airplane around the patch. I found a company out in SEA that I am going to get some sim time with(600 bucks), but I think it will be worth it! Also, the aeronautical experience form. Question, do you really need to figure out how much solo time you have, or can you just take your pic time minus some(wag) and fill in the square that way? I do know that it all has to agree with what your logbook says. Also, the x-country time states that a landing has to be made at 2 airports more than 100km apart. Is this a JCAB requirement? That square is going to take some time. All in all, a very good experience so far. I went with CREW and have been very pleased.

myoface

Johnny....

The AE form has to match your logbook to the minute. I was about 3 hours off and had to redo it after passing the interview. I would do everything in your power to make the AE form match your logbook precisely. In regards to the XC, I think that is a JCAB thing since it is on the AE form which is a JCAB form. What have you been flying? You have to have had a flight that was more than 100km at some point in your flying career?

Good luck...
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johnnybgood

I did a years worth of state side flying to Hawaii and then a few years with the same airline flying domestic sked service. It is just funny that California to Hawaii doesn't count(2200 miles) for XC because we would only fly one leg, day off and then fly back.

myoface

The directions I have dont say anything about being on the same day. Maybe they have changed it.

#9 DETAILS OF CROSS COUNTRY FLYING & LANDINGS

CROSS COUNTRY is defined as a flight with a total flight distance of more than 100 km and
a full stop landing at two or more airports before reaching the destination.

Besides, didnt you do something like that for your commercial ticket (on the same day...if that is important to you) 100KM is not that far...about 60 miles.

good luck
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T1Holding

I don't want to start a separate discussion about this, but the way I read the FAR's and the form:
1. Cross-country flight is any flight were you fly from one airport to another airport.
2. The 50 NM XC-flight is in part 61 to satisfy a training requirement for different certificates (private, commercial, instrument rating) eligibility.
3. Back when I got my ATP, I counted every flight with a landing at a different airport as cross-country and FAA had no problem with that. It says that you need 500 hrs on XC, does not specify a leg-length.

4. JCAB AE form asks for cross-country time, I put what is in my logbook, so they match.
5. Item 9 asks for a 3 leg cross-country flight ( just one flight with date and airports -- maybe to satisfy ATPL conversion requirement of JCAB )

I know that this is all confusing because we are talking with pilots in different countries with different regulations, but don't make it too difficult. Bottom line is your logbook must match what you fill to the forms.