Airline Pilot – Is it a good choice for a career change?
#12
In light of the above posts, I'll add my two cents......
I am a new member to APC but I have been reading a number of your posts for over a month. It's a good place to get a smile. I like the positive thread so I thought I would make my move and ask some daunting questions I'm dealing with. I am a private pilot with an instrument rating (piston single). I am married with a kid on the way and about to go through ATPs airline pilot program. My wife and I am prepared to make only $18k a year and to fight through the airline business cycles. If anyone feels nice, please offer a guy some advise following your footsteps....
1) Truly, how often will I be gone? I live in Fayetteville, NC. Is it realistic to think I can commute to wherever and not move to a hub city? I am close to Raleigh, Charlotte and relatively close to Atlanta. Chitaqua and ASA serve Fayetteville. ASA for Delta 4 times a day to Atlanta and Chitaqua for US Airways 5 times a day to Charlotte. Is it realistic to hope for a job with one of them?
2) How does the reserve thing work? Are you stuck in the hub city(which from what I have read is the Base??) or will I have, say, a 48 hour notice to be somewhere.
3) I won't be done training and teaching with ATP for about 6 months. Do you think the regionals will still be sucking up pilots?
4) It seems that most of you fly between 80-100 hours a month. Is that about right?
Thanks to anyone willing to help. Hope the best to you all.
I am a new member to APC but I have been reading a number of your posts for over a month. It's a good place to get a smile. I like the positive thread so I thought I would make my move and ask some daunting questions I'm dealing with. I am a private pilot with an instrument rating (piston single). I am married with a kid on the way and about to go through ATPs airline pilot program. My wife and I am prepared to make only $18k a year and to fight through the airline business cycles. If anyone feels nice, please offer a guy some advise following your footsteps....
1) Truly, how often will I be gone? I live in Fayetteville, NC. Is it realistic to think I can commute to wherever and not move to a hub city? I am close to Raleigh, Charlotte and relatively close to Atlanta. Chitaqua and ASA serve Fayetteville. ASA for Delta 4 times a day to Atlanta and Chitaqua for US Airways 5 times a day to Charlotte. Is it realistic to hope for a job with one of them?
2) How does the reserve thing work? Are you stuck in the hub city(which from what I have read is the Base??) or will I have, say, a 48 hour notice to be somewhere.
3) I won't be done training and teaching with ATP for about 6 months. Do you think the regionals will still be sucking up pilots?
4) It seems that most of you fly between 80-100 hours a month. Is that about right?
Thanks to anyone willing to help. Hope the best to you all.
#13
1) Truly, how often will I be gone? I live in Fayetteville, NC. Is it realistic to think I can commute to wherever and not move to a hub city? I am close to Raleigh, Charlotte and relatively close to Atlanta. Chitaqua and ASA serve Fayetteville. ASA for Delta 4 times a day to Atlanta and Chitaqua for US Airways 5 times a day to Charlotte. Is it realistic to hope for a job with one of them?
I'd say we credit (get paid for) about that per month. Flying hours may be less than that, though...deadhead, displacement, Daily pay guarantees, etc.
#15
In light of the above posts, I'll add my two cents......
I am a new member to APC but I have been reading a number of your posts for over a month. It's a good place to get a smile. I like the positive thread so I thought I would make my move and ask some daunting questions I'm dealing with. I am a private pilot with an instrument rating (piston single). I am married with a kid on the way and about to go through ATPs airline pilot program. My wife and I am prepared to make only $18k a year and to fight through the airline business cycles. If anyone feels nice, please offer a guy some advise following your footsteps....
1) Truly, how often will I be gone? I live in Fayetteville, NC. Is it realistic to think I can commute to wherever and not move to a hub city? I am close to Raleigh, Charlotte and relatively close to Atlanta. Chitaqua and ASA serve Fayetteville. ASA for Delta 4 times a day to Atlanta and Chitaqua for US Airways 5 times a day to Charlotte. Is it realistic to hope for a job with one of them?
2) How does the reserve thing work? Are you stuck in the hub city(which from what I have read is the Base??) or will I have, say, a 48 hour notice to be somewhere.
3) I won't be done training and teaching with ATP for about 6 months. Do you think the regionals will still be sucking up pilots?
4) It seems that most of you fly between 80-100 hours a month. Is that about right?
Thanks to anyone willing to help. Hope the best to you all.
I am a new member to APC but I have been reading a number of your posts for over a month. It's a good place to get a smile. I like the positive thread so I thought I would make my move and ask some daunting questions I'm dealing with. I am a private pilot with an instrument rating (piston single). I am married with a kid on the way and about to go through ATPs airline pilot program. My wife and I am prepared to make only $18k a year and to fight through the airline business cycles. If anyone feels nice, please offer a guy some advise following your footsteps....
1) Truly, how often will I be gone? I live in Fayetteville, NC. Is it realistic to think I can commute to wherever and not move to a hub city? I am close to Raleigh, Charlotte and relatively close to Atlanta. Chitaqua and ASA serve Fayetteville. ASA for Delta 4 times a day to Atlanta and Chitaqua for US Airways 5 times a day to Charlotte. Is it realistic to hope for a job with one of them?
2) How does the reserve thing work? Are you stuck in the hub city(which from what I have read is the Base??) or will I have, say, a 48 hour notice to be somewhere.
3) I won't be done training and teaching with ATP for about 6 months. Do you think the regionals will still be sucking up pilots?
4) It seems that most of you fly between 80-100 hours a month. Is that about right?
Thanks to anyone willing to help. Hope the best to you all.
2) Majors usually have long-call reserve, where you stay home and have 24 hours to get to work. Short call is 1.5 - 2 hours usually. Regionals almost never have long call, so you would have to sit reserve in your domicile. Usually this is 5-6 days on, 2-3 days off.
3) Yes, unless there is some industry catastrophe (I was in exactly your shoes when I turned on the CNN one Tuesday morning is 2001). Don't get in a hurry and take a job at gojets or mesa...you'll wish you hadn't.
4) 75-95 is more realistic. But if you fly more than 84 hours every single month, you will hit 1000 prior to DEC 31, and take the holidays off (usually with pay). This is called "timing-out" and some folks try really hard to do this. Be aware that due to work rules, you might (hopefully) get paid more than you fly. What you get paid is called "credit time", what you fly is "block time". Block cannot exceed 100/month, but credit often can. I've had 120+ on reserve due to being deadheaded all over the country.
Note: Turboprops often are limited to 120/month. 1200/year so basically they tend to work more.
Last edited by rickair7777; 05-02-2007 at 06:55 AM.
#16
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 8
Thanks Rick. I enjoy reading your posts...especially your side of the debate with Deadstick in another forum concerning national defense. It seems that the best bet for my family is either move to wherever I'm based and to not commute or get my ratings/licenses and just CFI on the side. It really is amazing the naysayers in these forums. All the threads I have read really has me thinking twice.
Joseph
Joseph
#18
But if you fly more than 84 hours every single month, you will hit 1000 prior to DEC 31, and take the holidays off (usually with pay). This is called "timing-out" and some folks try really hard to do this.
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