Ground shy?
05-06-2011, 04:05 PM
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I am pleased to say that, after giving myself a hard time for not being able to perform the 180 power out, I finally did a good job getting her down. After the engine "quit" the first thing I did was establish best glide and then at the same time turn toward the runway. I was a little high, so I dumped the flaps and was able touch down. What a great feeling. Now I gotta master those lazy eights.
05-06-2011, 04:31 PM
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Cool. This one should be taught to private pilots because it's the only one that shows what the airplane feels like with no thrust and helps understand what the engine is for and how to fly without it. I had a student who was wound about the axle until I showed her how to do a 3-mile descent to land with no engine. She had a breakthrough and has been flying perfectly with and without power ever since.
05-06-2011, 05:50 PM
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Cool. This one should be taught to private pilots because it's the only one that shows what the airplane feels like with no thrust and helps understand what the engine is for and how to fly without it. I had a student who was wound about the axle until I showed her how to do a 3-mile descent to land with no engine. She had a breakthrough and has been flying perfectly with and without power ever since.
06-27-2011, 10:29 AM
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As an experienced power off lander on my schools flight team, I can tell you the techniques that we use. It’s based mainly on consistency and altitudes. Basically, do the same thing over and over again and then just tweak it for different conditions.
Abeam the touchdown point pull the power to idle. Keep the nose up until enough airspeed in bled off so that you can put the first notch of flaps in. Pitch for your best glide or slightly higherAround 650-700 feet agl, turn base. This altitude will vary slightly based on conditions. Put next notch of flaps inTurn final when able. You should be around 400 feet agl at this point.On final, make sure you have the runway made before adding any additional flaps. You can judge whether or not you’re going to make the runway by using a reference point on your nose and on the runway. If your reference point on the runway appears to be going up the nose, you’re most likely going to have to add power. If it moves down the nose, this means that you are high, and you can add flaps to make it down quicker. I always like to ensure that I will make the runway before anything else
Being good at power off landings is something that comes with practice and experience. If you're struggling now, don’t worry. If you feel like it is important that you are good at power off’s, spend an hour in the pattern focusing only on this type of landing. You’ll be amazed at what an hour of practice will do.
Abeam the touchdown point pull the power to idle. Keep the nose up until enough airspeed in bled off so that you can put the first notch of flaps in. Pitch for your best glide or slightly higherAround 650-700 feet agl, turn base. This altitude will vary slightly based on conditions. Put next notch of flaps inTurn final when able. You should be around 400 feet agl at this point.On final, make sure you have the runway made before adding any additional flaps. You can judge whether or not you’re going to make the runway by using a reference point on your nose and on the runway. If your reference point on the runway appears to be going up the nose, you’re most likely going to have to add power. If it moves down the nose, this means that you are high, and you can add flaps to make it down quicker. I always like to ensure that I will make the runway before anything else
Being good at power off landings is something that comes with practice and experience. If you're struggling now, don’t worry. If you feel like it is important that you are good at power off’s, spend an hour in the pattern focusing only on this type of landing. You’ll be amazed at what an hour of practice will do.
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