MCC,CRM and boeing 737???? and other advice.
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MCC,CRM and boeing 737???? and other advice.
i got this question and then few more others if anybody knows the answer to. I'd like to work in Europe as an airline pilot but wanting to know few things. i am a european citizen just to put it out there.
i've seen a couple of schools with MCC and Boeing 737 included in the training. one or 2 schools ive also seen they include CRM
Is it worth doing it? im guessing the MCC is important to do right but doing the Boeing 737 would that be a waste of money right now?
CRM needed?
what ratings do i need? MEI,ME night rating,VFR,IFR????? again MCC, CRM and 737 rating really need it?
if you have a JAA license will you need to convert to a CAA to work in the UK.?
Any exams need to be taken if you do have to convert?
what is better modular or integrated.?
what planes should you look into training on?
will an airline look down on you if you have hrs in one airplane than another??
if you doing your ATPL will you need to do the CPL exams or is CPL and ATPL all combined in one?? equaling to 14 exams? excluding the 7 ppl exams
Does anybody know if the training in South Africa is good and what schools should i focus on??
i have been doing research on 5 schools there but want to know from anybody who has some insight to this, as im contemplating whether to do it in the US or South Africa
South Africa has the SA CAA license which is not affiliated with the UK CAA so i want to know.
If i do my Training in South Africa for a JAA license will it still be highly regarded in Europe.?
I've heard that Europe frowns upon JAA licenses obtained in south africa as the training is not high standard. is this true?
i wouldn't want to do my training and then find out later i got to go through a whole bunch more training and spend more money in order to be able to work in Europe.
i guess that is it for now. any help would be great thank you.
Have a great weekend and safe flying..
i've seen a couple of schools with MCC and Boeing 737 included in the training. one or 2 schools ive also seen they include CRM
Is it worth doing it? im guessing the MCC is important to do right but doing the Boeing 737 would that be a waste of money right now?
CRM needed?
what ratings do i need? MEI,ME night rating,VFR,IFR????? again MCC, CRM and 737 rating really need it?
if you have a JAA license will you need to convert to a CAA to work in the UK.?
Any exams need to be taken if you do have to convert?
what is better modular or integrated.?
what planes should you look into training on?
will an airline look down on you if you have hrs in one airplane than another??
if you doing your ATPL will you need to do the CPL exams or is CPL and ATPL all combined in one?? equaling to 14 exams? excluding the 7 ppl exams
Does anybody know if the training in South Africa is good and what schools should i focus on??
i have been doing research on 5 schools there but want to know from anybody who has some insight to this, as im contemplating whether to do it in the US or South Africa
South Africa has the SA CAA license which is not affiliated with the UK CAA so i want to know.
If i do my Training in South Africa for a JAA license will it still be highly regarded in Europe.?
I've heard that Europe frowns upon JAA licenses obtained in south africa as the training is not high standard. is this true?
i wouldn't want to do my training and then find out later i got to go through a whole bunch more training and spend more money in order to be able to work in Europe.
i guess that is it for now. any help would be great thank you.
Have a great weekend and safe flying..
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Some of the European countries are not very accepting of other member states licenses in general, this is probably the same case for one got in South Africa as they are unaffiliated.
I am in the process of trying to convert my FAA ATP to JAA and have to take all the 14 exams through an accredited school and then a commercial and instrument check ride. I'm using Bristol distance learning and while taking me a long time, it's a really good program.
If you don't already have an ICAO PPL then you will need to do that prior to anything else along with a JAA initial medical exam - I did mine a few years ago at Gatwick Airport in London.
JAA is a very long process and by no means a quick conversion unless you have a lot of heavy time. Be prepared to spend a lot of time and money on studying and sift through a lot of material. Apparently the aircraft you do it in really bares no relevance as they don't teach you more than aircraft basics, it's all about CRM.
If you have any more specific questions, PM me and i'll try to answer. Without knowing your experience level it's quite hard to answer some of the ones in your post...
Edit: MCC is a vital part of JAA training unless you have quite a lot of time in multi-crew cockpits. So rather than asking 'is it useful', probably the question you should be asking is 'can i get away without having to pay for yet another course?'. Not that I agree with the MCC necessarily, but they require you to either have the experience or take the course
I am in the process of trying to convert my FAA ATP to JAA and have to take all the 14 exams through an accredited school and then a commercial and instrument check ride. I'm using Bristol distance learning and while taking me a long time, it's a really good program.
If you don't already have an ICAO PPL then you will need to do that prior to anything else along with a JAA initial medical exam - I did mine a few years ago at Gatwick Airport in London.
JAA is a very long process and by no means a quick conversion unless you have a lot of heavy time. Be prepared to spend a lot of time and money on studying and sift through a lot of material. Apparently the aircraft you do it in really bares no relevance as they don't teach you more than aircraft basics, it's all about CRM.
If you have any more specific questions, PM me and i'll try to answer. Without knowing your experience level it's quite hard to answer some of the ones in your post...
Edit: MCC is a vital part of JAA training unless you have quite a lot of time in multi-crew cockpits. So rather than asking 'is it useful', probably the question you should be asking is 'can i get away without having to pay for yet another course?'. Not that I agree with the MCC necessarily, but they require you to either have the experience or take the course
Last edited by Stringer; 04-30-2010 at 12:37 PM. Reason: MCC