Jones14

What instruments are required for IFR training? Just a VOR instrument?

I've been looking around for some cheap trainers that are IFR certified, but I don't know the first thing about IFR training yet. Some claim to be IFR but only have a single LOC. Ideally, I think I would like to have LOC, LOC/GS and ADF, preferably DME (not many out there when you search <$30,000). For instance, this would be great... if the overhaul was included.

Just curious of your opinions, what's required, preferred, overkill, lingo such as "Full IFR," and ways to save, etc.

Thanks

rickair7777

I don't have the PTS handy, but you will need to do precision and non-precision approaches.

Practically, this means you need only a single VOR/LOC w/GS. However, this would require you to switch frequencies during an approach to identify stepdown fixes. I've seen people do it, but not a good idea at all.

For that reason you really need a second VOR/LOC receiver (doesn't need GS). You could also use DME instead of a second VOR.

I would suggest that, in addition to the VOR/LOC/GS, you have at least the second VOR/LOC and also DME. Many approaches use both DME and cross-radials to identify fixes, but some only use one or the other.

I would not worry about the ADF, the FAA is rapidly decommissioning NDB approaches.

I have not looked at the PTS in a while, I'm not sure if you are required to do a GPS approach now. Used to be you only had to do one if the airplane was equipped.

Rustee

RNAV (GPS), DME and ADF operations are only required if the aircraft is so equipped

WalkOfShame

First of all you'll need all the required instruments under FAR 91.205 (d). Per the PTS, you're required to do both a precision approach (ILS) and two non-precision approaches (VOR, LOC, GPS, etc.). I would suggest at least two NAV radios with separate CDI's, although one is only required but would create more work (like Rickair7777 said). Other than that ADF, DME, and GPS would be "nice to have" things but not necessarily needed. Hope this helps!

Jones14

Yes, it most certainly does. Now I gotta work on the $40K required to own a solid IRF aircraft.

Jones14

I'm disgusted that I'm not in the position yet to take advantage of this deal!

4873 TT and only 569 SMOH

The guy is only asking $19,800

JetDoc

To be IFR certified the aircraft must also have a heated pitot tube and an alternate static source.

lear553560ed

Great ad, Nice to know you aren't purchasing a steel Cessna 150 L.

Jones14

I have to be honest, I don't know if my sarcasm alert is going off or if you were serious? haha

gestrich19

I don't know much about aircraft ownership but I would do serious research on the maintenance costs of the aircraft may exceed the up-front cost over time.

Kudos to anyone that owns their own plane though as that is surely the dream.