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Old 11-12-2009, 03:34 AM
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Looking to find a place that can do the CFI/CFII/MEI ratings in a "weekend" type course, kind of like the $1295-"Multi Engine Training" operation in Texas, in, out and on with my life. Anyone know of such a place?
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I don't think a weekend CFI course is possible, thank goodness. It's a difficult rating to achieve. I've known a couple guys that did well at Sheble's in AZ (Google it). It's more like a week to ten days.
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If you are current and proficient on all maneuvers (from the right seat), have the writtens done, have your lesson plans built, and have practiced teaching, you could probably do one (not all three) instructor ratings in three days.

But yeah, Sheble's is probably the place to go.

If you want to do it locally, you could probably work with an instructor for a couple days to learn what you need to do. Go away for a couple of months to study, build lesson plans, and practice, the come back to the instructor for brush-up and signoff prior to the checkride.

But you will need to devote many days (80 hours?) of study and prep before the checkride, whether you do it on your own or in a structured program.

The CFII and MEI require less prep time, since the scope of knowledge is narrower.
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Well I fly between 70 and 160 hours a month, depending on the season, and I'm proficient in both seats, I'm not looking to instruct more than maybe one or two students a year (friends) and the ratings would mostly be collected, not used.

So you say Sheble's is the place to go, I'll have to give them a call and find out more.
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Does anybody know if it is possible to get the CFI/MEI on the same ride?

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Does anybody know if it is possible to get the CFI/MEI on the same ride?

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Yes you can, but because it will be your first CFI checkride, the FSDO will want you to do it with them, and some might not want to have the FSDO examine their multi skills.
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Old 11-18-2009, 12:08 PM
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One of the benefits of flying in HI is that the FSDO is never able to accommodate the check ride within a reasonable amount of time, so they just let you go to a DE by default and not even ask for a FSDO ride, and yes I'm talking about the CFI initial.

But I'm shopping around for price, I think if I do it Part 61 I could get away with the CFI-MEI for about $1500 if I do the ride in a multi first.
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Does anybody know if it is possible to get the CFI/MEI on the same ride?

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We use those terms in a confusing manner:

CFI = CFI ASEL
MEI = CFI AMEL
CFII = CFI Instrument Airplane (valid in both ASEL and AMEL with some limitations)

So, no you cannot do your "CFI" and "MEI" on the same ride because one requires an ASEL and the other an AMEL.

You can, however, do the MEI as your initial instructor ride. If you do that, you will have a CFI AMEL and will not be able to teach in an ASEL. I can't think of any good reason to do that unless you have a lot of time in the airplane in question (ie did your commercial training in it) or have an MEI job waiting.

You can also do the CFII as your initial ride, some folks prefer this because the scope of skills and knowledge is less than for a CFI.
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Question here... regarding the "add-on rides", when one does a CSEL they can then do a CMEL "add on" and do the "instrument portion" in the MEL plane and no oral portion, saving time/money on the checkride, what I'm wondering is after an initial CFI ride in say a MEL plane do I have to do an oral for the SEL portion? So... if I do my CFII as the initial ride in a MEL plane would that oral alone cover all 3 checkrides?
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Just looking through FSIMS there isn't much on add on ratings. Given that the Double I only allows you to teach instrument flying, I'd bet there's more oral for a SE or ME CFI add on. Now if you've got a MEI and are going for the SE, there's probably not much to talk about. But the FSIMS talks about emphasizing practice areas and how low time pilots continue into IMC and crash. Since you're more likely to be dealing with low time pilots during single engine instruction, I think there's always something for them to talk about.
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