Embry Riddle to offer Ph.D. in Aviation!!??
07-25-2009, 04:34 AM
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Buzz Aldrin became an astronaut via PHd route
He wasn't a test pilot like the other guys so he decided to go the PHd route. He did orbital mechanics at MIT and that got him in.
Don't be a thousanduplet. Those are the guys with blonde hair, whiteened teeth, serengetti sunglasses on a lanyard. If you are offering the same as everyone else then how do you stand out?
Don't be a thousanduplet. Those are the guys with blonde hair, whiteened teeth, serengetti sunglasses on a lanyard. If you are offering the same as everyone else then how do you stand out?
07-25-2009, 06:25 AM
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I must admit, I suppose a PhD. would be one way to do it. So what now, kids will be lining up to add a Masters and a PhD. in aviation to get a $20,000 a year job?
Sorry, it just seems like taking advantage of gullibility to me. Even for someone significant flight time and career experience, a masters or PhD. in aviation seems much less valuable than an undergrad degree in aviation. If you want it to teach somewhere, get a masters in education, or engineering. If you are in the corporate world or management bound, a MBA would serve you much better.
Call me crazy, but I don't think when it comes down to the sim check and panel interview, that a PhD. in aviation is going to make much difference in who gets the job. Once you have five or ten thousand hours, multiple types, and years of real world experience - what is a PhD. in aviation going to add to that?
Sorry, it just seems like taking advantage of gullibility to me. Even for someone significant flight time and career experience, a masters or PhD. in aviation seems much less valuable than an undergrad degree in aviation. If you want it to teach somewhere, get a masters in education, or engineering. If you are in the corporate world or management bound, a MBA would serve you much better.
Call me crazy, but I don't think when it comes down to the sim check and panel interview, that a PhD. in aviation is going to make much difference in who gets the job. Once you have five or ten thousand hours, multiple types, and years of real world experience - what is a PhD. in aviation going to add to that?
07-25-2009, 08:38 PM
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I'm not as well acquainted with the academic culture as you are, but my limited knowledge of it tells me that in serious circles WHERE you got that Masters and/or PhD. from matters a great deal. I don't think that a thesis-less masters will be taken seriously by many institutions if teaching and/or research at the university level is your goal.
The real doctorate in aviation is an ATP with several type ratings, and a number of years flying the line - preferably with some time as a check airman (or the corporate equivalent thereof). But, since that's not the language of academia, they'll invent their own system (regardless of how irrelevant it is).
The real doctorate in aviation is an ATP with several type ratings, and a number of years flying the line - preferably with some time as a check airman (or the corporate equivalent thereof). But, since that's not the language of academia, they'll invent their own system (regardless of how irrelevant it is).
As far as having a non-thesis Master's degree, again you are correct....because if your goal is to instruct or conduct research, at some schools. you must defend your thesis just as the disertation at the PhD level.
Yes, having the varied, yet extensive aviation flight experience is the equivalent of the PhD in flight.
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07-26-2009, 05:51 AM
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Purdue University recently went to a policy where all new professors within Aviation Technology are tenure-tracked and therefore must have a Ph.D or be enrolled in a Ph.D program with a Masters before they're eligible for hire. Of course, existing professors are grandfathered in but are "highly encouraged" to pursue Doctorate-level studies.
I personally think requiring such academic credentials in a field where professional experience is so much more pertinent than theory...but research is the name of the game these days ($$$) and "trade schools" within major universities are evidently being told to toe the line.
I personally think requiring such academic credentials in a field where professional experience is so much more pertinent than theory...but research is the name of the game these days ($$$) and "trade schools" within major universities are evidently being told to toe the line.
07-26-2009, 07:33 AM
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Yeah, I think the ideal aviation professor would have a masters in aero-engineering and airline or military flying experience. A professional academic is missing the operational aspect...aviation is as much votech as academic.
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